Abyssals

I know very well what I am writing, because I actually know Abyssals very well. I even made you a screenshot of the loot. What is there not to understand? You can check the values of the BPCs yourself if you don’t believe it. Just search for them in the contracts. So you have a very clear number of ISK that these 4 runs generated.

But, just for you:

Chaotic Firestorms this time:
After Filament #1:

Filament #2 was a ‘Leshak Room’ which I skipped, so no loot gained here.

After Filament #3:

After Filament #4:

Total Loot:
2023.11.02.01.41.32
EVE Tycoon → 250m sell estimate, 239m buy estimate, 228,26 m3 total volume

Timer:
2023.11.02.01.39.26
13 minutes left, so the 3 runs + 1 skipped Leshak Room took 47minutes.

Simple math:

  • 239M loot even if I just right-click “sell all” in Jita (minus sales tax, like 4.8% or whatever my market char has)
  • 4 Chaotic Firestorm Filaments used = 4x 3.75M = 15M Filament Costs
  • Standard Exile Booster used: 1.6M
  • Standard Crash Booster used: 2.6M
  • Pyrolancea 5 Booster used: 10.7M

239 - 15 - 1.6 - 2.6 - 10.6 = 209M in 47minutes or 69.66M ISK profit per successful filament run.

Now lets check this with the AbyssTracker:
https://abysstracker.com/info-page/tier/5/weather/Firestorm

So, this says a Chaotic Firestorm gives on average (!!!) 76.13M loot. I got 239 from 3 runs, which means on average (!!!) 79.67M per filament. Thats almost a spot on landing on what the Abysstracker tells us.

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Im curious what drones do you use in ur fire sac? Set of navy vespas and set of navy hammerheads?

Yes,

  • Navy Vespas to open all cans at the start of the pocket and then distract a bit of enemy fire while there are still threats to drones (Autmata Turrets or NPCs that target drones)
  • Hammerhead IIs to apply max DPS when all drone-threats are removed (Karens, Overseers, Deepwatchers…). Navy Hammers don’t make much sense imho, if they take damage their additional HP will last a few seconds more at max, so you would want shield-tanking drones (aka the Navy Vespas). And if there are no threats to them any more and against the big HP targets, Hammer IIs deliver more damage anyway.
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As an alternative (requires lots of skills I know) I routinely run T4 firestorms in an ikitursa active tanked on armor with mid range-askpelians … survives all rooms. Ive had a couple of scary times but by and large seems to handle it well

@Syzygium Is a fountain of knowledge.

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Talking to you is like talking to a wall.
No, even worse- if someone talk to a wall, wall do not answer at all. You do- and you clearly have no sense of the topic at hand.

You just do not follow the conversation- you are keep pushing your opinion and agenda- not a single person care about it.

So, your thing is to repeat to me what i said to you?
Yeah, great conversation there, buddy.

I ask one thing- you are blabbering about your opinion.
That is not how adults are conversing.

Do better.

then quote me where i told you the same that you told to me … i dont wanna scroll up to read things that are more then a month old …

you never start an conversation ! you just tell everybody that youre not able to create ISK out of abyss ! so… everyone else whi fly abyss can make isk but not you !

as i remember you wanna say that CCP need to change abyss because youre not smart enough for abyss ? cant remember it was more then a month ago and i answered in this time many cry trolls in this forum …

again … you never start a conversatiojn ! you startet to cry … and crying is not what an adult will do if he has done something wrong !

so tell us all who is just blabbering an opinion and dont come up with a real conversation !

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Yeah, you see- you have an opinion.
Not facts.
Since your opinion has no weight- nobody cares for it, so you are free to have it.

The fact you cant recall what you wrote some time ago tells me more about state of your mental state then anything else.

Have a great day, I have no time for your kind.

sure i have an opinion :wink: but against you i told facts ! and you dont come up with any useful …

because my opinion is not important xD important are the facts i bring :wink:

this tells me you dont have more arguments and now youre only thing you can try is to personal attack me xD nice to see that you have failed on argueing against me, quoting me to show i´m wrong and you also failed in personal attacking me xD

i always have

I understand your feelings, it’s because my arguments are rock-solid and your nonsense is weak.

No, you get that wrong. I am an expert on the topic and you are a newbie who claims there is a “problem” just because you are unable to execute basic tasks that generate huge profits with abyssals. It’s a You-Problem, but you are unwilling to learn and adapt and thus unable to achieve what most others can.

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Others have said it already. Stop passive tanking that Gila.

I came back to the game after a decade and was recommended abyssals for some easy isk. Didn’t have much isk (about a bil) but grabbed a Gila and a pisscheap active tankfit. Started doing t3’s until I was comfortable with how abyssals worked. Then t4’s and then made the jump to t5s.

T5s were hairy as hell, took some piloting with a shitty fit. But it’s been 60 days now and I’ve run hundreds without dying a single time.

Upgraded my fit and now done 70ish t6’s with qbsolutely no problem at all.

The isk started rolling in at t5s. Roughly 300mil/hour. T6’s are silly isk.

Tl;dr

Started with 1 bil, got a cheapass Gila. 60days later sitting in a HG Crystal and 6bil Gila.

Abyssals are fun

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I am an expert abyss-miner farmer. You can passive tank gilas and run t5 gammas/exo until the end of the times. It is by far the most brainless safest and profitable activity in EVE and you can easily dualbox them. It is not uncommon to even use bots to run t4 gammas.

And passive tank gilas are by nature way cheaper then active tanked.

I believe people advicing to active tank a gila are just trolling you.

Indeed, t5-t6 abyss are just a crazy isk-printer. It should be removed from highsec (until t3). I dont know why would someone use a bot to mine in highsec when they can just bot the abyss.

@Brisc_Rubal any opinion on HS abyss?

Just a small update for OP. Had some free time tonight.

Just ran 4x t5 exotics.
Took 58min flat.
Shield never dropped below 80%.
Loot: 383mil plus a few shitty bp’s.
Filaments at 20mil/ea.
Profit: ~300mil

I’m starting to think you don’t loot all the cans. There is simply no way you are not turning a profit in abyssals if done properly.

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Yah many cases you do need to loot everything. As you do the sites more and notice if the cashes are really low on loot. The extra loot might be in an extractor node.

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