I got robbed, blown up, scammed and lured into nullsec flying a mining Osprey within 1 week of playing.
Learned a lot that week 
People will be fine imo
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Would you have fared better with an extra week or two of āghostā time to figure out how the game worked without being disrupted?
Your question is ā ā ā ā ā ā up and potentially trying to put words into my ā¦ fingers.
- People donāt need to be protected from most things.
- Less rules = better.
There are too many legal and social rules regarding human behaviour and freedom of expression in general, which lead to the situation weāre living in nowadays. At least one whole generation of thinly skinned princesses lacking self-responsibility. If you know 1984, then you know that thatās a great base for a totalitarian regime just waiting to offer protection and safety to all these people.
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She wasnāt being disrupted.
Stop imagining words and meanings into peopleās ā¦ fingers.
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Define āfaring betterā. Are you concerned with ISK or enjoyment?
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Guys, heās trying to lead the conversation by adding things that fit his narrative.
You, for example, fell for it.
Heās implying that what happened to Yarda was a disruption,
which was not the case as far as anyone knows ā¦ not counting her, of course.
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Why not both? ? Or, how about this one: would he/she have learned more or more quickly with an extra week or two?
Where am I leading? I think I made my position pretty clear in the OP. And, if I am āleadingā, then what are YOU doing? Where are YOU leading?
Not emptyquoting.
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For me that was part of the reason I kept playing. The first container I dumped for mining was scooped up within 20 minutes by random Badger. That dude actually send a message with a thank you for my ādonationā. I was like; What just happened? and āYou can do that?ā I just laughed. Hard 
So I learned about anchoring, sec-systems and jetcan mining.
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What happened to Yarda Black was a disruption. Yarda Blackās reaction to that disruption doesnāt make it not a disruption. Someone disrupted his/her mining operation and probably a few other things.
So, push the events of that new player experience forward 2 weeks when the player knows more and has more material resilience and tell me: is the game better or worse? How?
Because Iām sure answers would be different.
No, of course. Unless you are defining learning in terms of SP.
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I would say that @Yarda_Black learnt more from the experience of having their can jacked than they would have if it hadnāt happened.
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Pain is the greatest teacher.
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āLife is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.ā ~ Westley
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What would stop me from creating an ALT and using this period of immunity for other uses? There are many reasonable protections already in place including a criminal consent flag on your console. Teaching new players a false sense of security and that the game will ālook afterā them undermines the very thing that makes this a unique and amazing experience. Be whomever you want to be - how many times are we promised that and very few times it is delivered.
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Just wondering, what is the ratio of ship loss due to triglavian scouts vs. ship loss due to non-consensual pvp in hisec for characters younger than 31 days ?
Any real reason why anyone feels one is āacceptableā and the other is not ?
@DeMichael_Crimson thanks for reposting the eula, made me read it again, saw the new list. If there ever was a dev post about this on these forums, I never saw itā¦
Gotta love this constant stream of threads about how bad pvp is for āthe gameā and āthe New Playersā, otherwise you start to develop a rash with every new one. 
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I already showed that the time stamp was updated due to a change in the text of the article. How about you show proof of what you claim.
The details of some of the information theyāve posted are above, and no itās not just one set of stats from CCP RIse. I didnāt even post that one in the info posted above.
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Up in the thread. I posted them there several hours ago. They are still there.
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If you canāt look at the other information I posted (eg. the presentation from CCP Quant and his direct quote, or the other post in the forum fro Rise explaining that theyāve tried and tried and failed to show there is a problem (paraphrasing)), then thereās really nothing else.
Not just one thing from Rise, but knock yourself out with whatever crusade you want to head down. I donāt have any interest in it.
I know CCPās views donāt sit comfortable with people that want to demonise pvp, but such is life.
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