I agree. Let it be so.
Let it be so 
Let the rise begin!!! Capital Ships in high sec would be a nice view!
Agreed!
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https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/213841/26
Looks like the other thread on the CSM section was closed, guess we need to keep this one rolling!
Ignorant tard muffins. Long live this thread ! Long live good ideas!
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Ignorant tard muffins. Long live this thread ! Long live good ideas!
Amen
Iâd love it, it would bring a lot of content to hisec 
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quit punishing the newer non pvp crowd.
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Iâm for it. i just wonder what effect it would have on the economy. Also how would ganking work in highsec with these beast. i have alot of question as to the overall effect of highsec.
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I endorse this idea, with the caveat that capitals built in high sec should be locked to high sec.
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There are those that do not participate in low sec or null sec areas of the game. However, to ban capital ships in high sec is ridiculous. It is actually simple, anyone with a negative rating in High sec would have there ship auto destroyed. However, create content for the use of capital ships in high sec for pve vs. pvp interaction. Not all players are into pvp. I for one hate gate warp bubbles and gate camps; when all you are trying to do is pve requiring you to go to null or low sec to complete pve content. Then just to have someone take out your 100 mill isk ship vs. loosing your ship in the pve battle. Why have trainable skills and ships if you are not able to use them or for that matter do not have the desire to loose them in pvp battles.
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I am for it as well. I play PVE and love getting high end ships to fight swarms of enemyâs. having capital ships would be amazing.
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Silent Coalition/Silent Company would like to make clear that OP does not speak for or on behalf of the coalition and any statements he makes reflect of himself and his corporation.
Thank you
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That is the most carebear thing Iâve ever heard
Silent Coalition/Silent Company would like to make clear that OP does not speak for or on behalf of the coalition and any statements he makes reflect of himself and his corporation.
Thank you
Come now many highsec members in silent love the idea but yes no group, silent or otherwise, is âorderingâ me to advocate for capitals in highsec, incase some think that Iâm a puppet for some entity.
Oh, trust me, the newer, Non-PVP crowd are the ones who will be punished and will be the ones who suffer, when the veterans from nullsec with their SOLE monopoly on creating supers comes knocking down doors in hisec.
It would have a bad effect on the economy, and utterly prevent ganks on these ships. The overall problems in hisec will double, triple, if this were implimented.
The OP isnt suggesting that Capitals be created in hisec.
And yet, your suggestion of bringing in Capital ships to hisec, would only exacerbate PVP interaction for everyone involved.
It wont help new players who cant afford to enter, or have the SP to enter ships. They will be outmatched and outgunned, severely.
It wont help smaller or newer corps that want to establish a structure.
It will only help veterans and older, richer players.
Thinking this will benefit new players, is ridiculous. And if you dont care about new players, small corps, then okay. Be honest about it and say it.
And yet, all you will be is on the receiving end of being swarmed by hundreds of enemy capital ships.
Oh, trust me, the newer, Non-PVP crowd are the ones who will be punished and will be the ones who suffer, when the veterans from nullsec with their SOLE monopoly on creating supers comes knocking down doors in hisec.
Nope, green safety means your immune to the âbadboys from nullâ unless they try ganking you, in which case theyâll lose lots of money. Saying newbies will be popped off the moment they undock is a lie, safety green and your good.
utterly prevent ganks on these ships.
The ships will be very difficult to kill from ganks, that is a positive for highsec residents not a bad thing.
The OP isnt suggesting that Capitals be created in hisec.
If CCP wants to make it so that highsec capitals can never leave, then Iâll be in favor of having them made in nullsec for obvious reasons. I have issue with that stance however because that will not allow highsec powers to amass militaries that could be used in nullsec wars, since theyâll be locked to highsec.
And yet, your suggestion of bringing in Capital ships to hisec, would only exacerbate PVP interaction for everyone involved.
Green safety says hai
It wont help new players who cant afford to enter, or have the SP to enter ships. They will be outmatched and outgunned, severely.
Nope again green safety
It wont help smaller or newer corps that want to establish a structure.
That is true, keeping structures will now be more complicated with the introduction of capitals, but that can be gone around by using a holding corp for each structure, forcing the attacker to pay fees, hiring professional mercs with capitals, who will now see a resurgence, or living out of NPC stations, which are immune to player attack
It will only help veterans and older, richer players.
nope you can fleet up and get assisted much easier now with your buddies in capitals if a new player, and eventually the new player will reach the level where he can fly a capital ship, versus the case now where new players will never be able to fly capitals because they are locked out of highsec.
Thinking this will benefit new players, is ridiculous. And if you dont care about new players, small corps, then okay. Be honest about it and say it.
nope it will, and I will continue to mention it, right now nullsec has a monopoly on capitals, newbies will NEVER be able to get capitals currently if they do not consent to having to obey a nullsec group
And yet, all you will be is on the receiving end of being swarmed by hundreds of enemy capital ships.
nope he will be having a blast killing NPC ships, which I believe is something that you hate and wish to prevent (PVE)
Never said anything about new players being killed.
Why dont you read my response before you reply to it? Or ask, if you dont know what Im talking about.
It wont.
If you see 10 rorquals clearing all the belts and ice belts from a system every day, and they own no citadels, how else are you going to compete with them?
With current mechanics, in all other instances, Ganking was an option. Now it isnt.
Not a very good thing for those newer, smaller groups of highsec residents.
Citadel owning say bai
Nope again Citadel owning goodbye.
Oh my.
a). The attacker will always have to pay fees. Thats how wardec works.
b). The attacker will be able to get away with less fees. Cost of wardecs are based on alliances and the number of players inside said corp/alliance. Which means youve made it cheaper for them to attack corporations.
c). If you think that Hisec mercs will be able to compete with nullsec entities on a capital vs capital engagement, you are delusional, or stupid.
d). Yes. They will be forced to live out of NPC stations. And new players and smaller groups will protest the existance of capitals, saying they hurt hisec because they are unable to safely own a citadel and put up a modest defense or hire mercs to defend their property, because the large nullsec entities with dozens of titans come and destroy everything they own.
Bravo.
Yes, because smaller, newer groups of players are capable of going toe to toe with larger, older nullsec entities.
In reality, your friends will not assist you because they know they will just lose their capitals to the larger fleets.
Lowsec.
I guess you forgot about that section of space.
Never said i hate PVE, i make billions a month and still do running L4s and incursions. I help people frequently, even in your own corp, i help your corpmates run missions.
Which is why im against your idea.
Never said anything about new players being killed.
Why dont you read my response before you reply to it? Or ask, if you dont know what Im talking about.
It is what your implying, remember your quote was:
Oh, trust me, the newer, Non-PVP crowd are the ones who will be punished and will be the ones who suffer, when the veterans from nullsec with their SOLE monopoly on creating supers comes knocking down doors in hisec.
What does oh, trust me, the newer, non pvp crowd mean then?
It wont.
If you see 10 rorquals clearing all the belts and ice belts from a system every day, and they own no citadels, how else are you going to compete with them?
With current mechanics, in all other instances, Ganking was an option. Now it isnt.
Not a very good thing for those newer, smaller groups of highsec residents.
Simple, big mean rorqual is stealing your rock, you get 1-3 machariels, and bump him at high speed while he is in boson, rorqual rages in local and you go back to mining. Rorquals will be balanced because its a delicate act when you can boson and when you canât without flying away and leaving your excavator drones behind.
Citadel owning say bai
nope you defend it, if you canât defend your citadel then use an NPC station, you only pay abit more in tax. If you donât want to pay that small extra tax, then drop citadel and defend.
Nope again Citadel owning goodbye.
NPC stations worked well since 2003, still work well.
Oh my.
a). The attacker will always have to pay fees. Thats how wardec works.
yup, 100m a week stacks up, its an extra ehh you gotta pay to war.
b). The attacker will be able to get away with less fees. Cost of wardecs are based on alliances and the number of players inside said corp/alliance. Which means youve made it cheaper for them to attack corporations.
not since wardec changes, remember its a flat 100m fee now
c). If you think that Hisec mercs will be able to compete with nullsec entities on a capital vs capital engagement, you are delusional, or stupid.
Where there is money and fights there will be people, ex veterans starting their own companies using their experience etc.
d). Yes. They will be forced to live out of NPC stations. And new players and smaller groups will protest the existance of capitals, saying they hurt hisec because they are unable to safely own a citadel and put up a modest defense or hire mercs to defend their property, because the large nullsec entities with dozens of titans come and destroy everything they own.
perhaps, but the buff of capitals will counteract it and more.
Yes, because smaller, newer groups of players are capable of going toe to toe with larger, older nullsec entities.
In reality, your friends will not assist you because they know they will just lose their capitals to the larger fleets.
so you get your own
Lowsec.
I guess you forgot about that section of space.
which nullsec exerts de facto control over because of lack of concord and their firepower advantage, hence why I skip lowsec, also the income is lower than highsec
Never said i hate PVE, i make billions a month and still do running L4s and incursions. I help people frequently, even in your own corp, i help your corpmates run missions.
Which is why im against your idea.
Well I appreciate you helping out my members with missions, this means that we are two parties that disagree, but we help new players just the same, thank you.
It means what it says. The newer, non-pvp crowd.
Miners can be new, non-pvp players. And yet, 10 rorquals coming down and stripping the belts and ice belts clean, wont help them at all. They will suffer for it.
Corps that want to own stations themselves, can be filled with new, non-pvp players. And yet, they cannot hope to compete with large entities with established super-fleets. They will suffer for it.
First off, what do you mean by Boson? Rorquals cant fit Bosonic Field Generators. Only Titans can.
Secondly, I guess no one told you this.
Industrial Core 2 increases Ship Mass by 10x.
Higgs anchor increases Ship Mass by 100%.
Increased mass decreases effects of bump, significantly.
So no, your three machariels will not be able to bump a rorqual with an active Industrial Core 2, in any significant way.
Also, I guess no one told you this either. You can recall your excavator drones any time you want.
And no entity in hisec can defend from Nullsec when it comes to supers.
So essentially, that means Citadel Owning say bai.
I was right.
NPC stations cannot moon mine.
Yup, and since Citadels cost less than 100 Million, it sure isnt worth it, and the wardeccers will be spending more ISK than the victims will be losingâŚ
Wait, no, citadels arent sub-100 million! Silly me.
Paying 100 million to take down a 500 million structure sounds like a good deal.
For fun, sure. For an actual defense, no.
Again, Bye bye citadels.
What buffs?
Get my own 1000 man super fleet? Where do they have those? Id like two or three, please.
No, they dont. Ask anyone who is in lowsec.
Well, no, I disagree that you are helping out new players.
Well, no, I disagree that you are helping out new players.
Interesting, I get lots of praise for how I help new players from lots of people, why do you think Iâm doing an inadequate job?
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