Allow Capital Ships, Supercarriers, and Titans in Highsec

You are free to move to LS or NS…you are not free to just move countries…try again.

You don’t see a lot of KB boasting on the forums because it’s not allowed. People talking about kills and people showing their kills are different…and it’s pretty hard to call KB a vanity project if you can’t actually use it.

Yes, it’s par for the course for you to think a fact is ludicrous.

I never said acceptable…why do you always feel the need to say things people didn’t actually say?

Really. Please back that statement-up with facts (akaproof of your claim). I’d love to see that.

How many years did you gank for?

The resources required to build these big ships…

It makes the game look and feel like a joke. Hence CCP changing timer mechanics to make killing stations easier. The same issues will happen with the mega ships.

…and if plex prices rise, more people sell PLEX which drops the price. Win for everyone. So PLEX prices are higher because of skins…ok then…

Stop lying. I have said no such thing, no matter how many times you repeat your lies.

Yes, they would for all intents and purposes be a trophy.

And that’s the point! You can’t use your trophy, you can only stare at it and tell yourself how cool you are for owning it. “Blapping a few rats for a laugh” while making less ISK than farming in a normal ship is not what anyone thinks of when they dream of owning and using a capital ship.

Again you demonstrate your ignorance of how EVE is supposed to work. EVE is meant to be a cold dark universe where Darwinism is the most important rule and the weak exist to be exploited and slaughtered by the strong. Stop trying to devalue success in EVE and give everyone participation trophies just for signing up.

There is equality of opportunity. All players start with exactly the same opportunities. You aren’t entitled to additional opportunities just because you decide to play with a self-imposed limit of not leaving highsec.

I agree 100% with this statement, and the different regions of the game do need their own unique content. However with the exception of wormhole space, which could get supers/titans in a c7 expansion perhaps, both low/null have access to capital ships including supers and titans. There is no sov in low, but they still have supers and titans. So the argument of region diversity is moot in my eyes, you can have regional diversity, with the same access to supers and titans. Highsec, lowsec, and nullsec should have ALL ships available to them, and if wormholers wish for it, they should as well in their own way.

Of course it is.

CCP aren’t going to make this change, so it doesn’t matter whether the point is moot or not.

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Actually you can quite easily move to other countries, even with limited work visa obtainment, just marry a national from the country that you want to move towards. You missed the point of my argument, they could move to another country, but don’t they deserve to live a good life in the country where they live?

Of course it is.

CCP aren’t going to make this change, so it doesn’t matter whether the point is moot or not.

A change that would increase player retention, make CCP a lot of money through plex/omega purchases, not to mention skin purchases, and allow for a state of permanent change in nullsec, as empires slowly build up their forces in highsec, and invade when they feel powerful enough, thus breaking up uber coalitions and making nullsec great again, and increase the happiness of highsec players, you think CCP is never going to even consider this?

We’ll see :slight_smile:

Sure they’ll consider that, but that has nothing to do with this proposal at all.

They are not entitled to it…they need to work for it…

I didn’t say ‘easy’ I said ‘free’…there is a price you have to pay, like everything in life. Same in EvE.

Actually player retention would drop…

See how easy it is to predict the future…

You can even easier move regions in EVE. No visa necessary (except in highsec, where mining permits are necessary) and all rights granted.

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Absolutely not. C7 space as you propose it would be a terrible idea. Wormholers live in wspace because we dont want supers and titans rolling over us. Maybe try living in one before tossing out half baked ideas.

Oh wait. You tried for half a day and couldn’t get past a 3 man fleet with no logi support on a high sec hole. You’re as qualified to talk about what wormhole space needs as a flat earther telling people why the earth isnt a globe.

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You can even easier move regions in EVE. No visa necessary (except in highsec, where mining permits are necessary) and all rights granted.

Remember the discussion about regional diversity and how you agree that it is a good thing? Well why should a highsec player be forced to move, when two other regions both with sperate unique characteristics get to fly capitals, up to supers and titans?

Highsec players deserve to be able to fly supers and titans, and the other capital ships just as lowsec and nullsec players deserve to fly supers and titans.

Absolutely not. C7 space as you propose it would be a terrible idea. Wormholers live in wspace because we dont want supers and titans rolling over us. Maybe try living in one before tossing out half baked ideas.

I proposed c7 because you can have it be a c7 with a highsec and say c7/c8 static, you don’t have to expose the lower tier wormholes to capitals, especially since wormhole space is already designed with ship class in mind.

Then again I’m proposing capitals for my home, highsec. You are more qualified to see if full capital access in certain wormholes is beneficial for the wormhole community.

No one is forced to move, but moving is easy if you want to.

The same question can be asked of every space, and the answer is the same. No one is forced to move anywhere.

My own view is each area of space should provide it’s own unique advantages and disadvantages, and offer a complete experience in its own way for the people that want to play there.

Highsec for example, should be just as attractive for its gameplay, as nullsec is, but in different ways.

Then, if you want the opportunities that one space has (eg. like seeing the opportunity available in a different country), then you can easily move there (far more easily than moving countries).

No one deserves anything other than what is outlined in the EULA.

We aren’t entitled to have the game changed to meet our individual desires, yet we all have the same opportunity to experience everything the game offers.

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Have you ever actually been in a high class wormhole?

Highsec players deserve to be able to shoot anyone they want without CONCORD involvement, just like nullsec and lowsec players.

lowsec space = full capital access

nullsec space = full capital access

highsec space = no capital access

Should be full capital access for all 3

Highsec players deserve to be able to shoot anyone they want without CONCORD involvement, just like nullsec and lowsec players.

Nope, highsec space is where civilization is, the seat of the four empires. If you want no concord you go to lowsec or nullsec or wormhole space.

Highsec players deserve to fly capitals, having capitals only for those two regions is a nerf to highsec.

lowsec space = shoot anyone you want with no CONCORD

nullsec space = shoot anyone you want with no CONCORD

highsec space = can’t shoot anyone you want with no CONCORD

Should be full shoot everyone you want without CONCORD access for all 3

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