You have no idea how ganking actually works do you?
Sounds like you dont know how ganking works.
People that dont pay for the game should not be able to sit in highsec risk free ganking away… if they want pvp so much go play in any other space… or pay up…
But these people dont want to pvp… they want risk free ganking on highsec nothing else.
I think ganking in highsec is perfectly fine. But not for risk free alpha’s
How is high sec ganking ‘risk free’?
I’m not a ganker and might be missing something, but to me it seems you have a certainty of loss of your ship and also the risk of not successfully killing your target if they happen to play better, fit better or have more help from friends or anti-gankers than you expected. You could even lose your ship to other people due to your low security status or kill rights even before you manage to gank someone.
And even if you do manage to kill the target, the payout is in the hands of the loot faerie, who could decide that you get nothing and that the payout of the gank is less than it cost you, so you go ISK negative.
Certainty of ship loss, uncertainty of kill, uncertainty of profitable loot upon kill… how is ganking ‘without risk’?
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This right here 100%…
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There is very little risk for particularly alpha gankers.
Standings wont hurt you as you respawn a new toon.
You know the fit of your target (or you should)
You see how much cargo value they have…
So you could literally gank away with out much consequences. Soon as some 1 knows the gank toon or standings are tanked you just spin up a new free
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Yeah thing is I don’t know how much ganking would actually be done by alpha’s. Ganking is a multi-person setup and a lot of it is actually done by multiboxers. having more accounts and therefore people in on the gank eats into profits a lot. I know it used to be against the EULA to use an Alpha while multi-boxing, so unless they changed that, there really wouldn’t be that many people using Alphas for ganking.
Still bannable to multibox with an alpha.
My point is more a solo catalyst going around jita area poping ventures and new bros etc.
I have absolutely no problem with omega multibox gankers… it takes investment and a bit of skill to take down a bigger ship… if he has high grades the gankers are going to have a bad day
eh I think this sort of thing is not that big a problem either. I don’t think that many do it in the first place and frankly its a lot better for newbros to learn hisec is dangerous in a venture than in something more expensive. CCP has also pointed out that people losing ventures tends to not be the reason for quitting, its actually the ones that just sit and mine that get bored and eventually leave because youll never progress trying to compete with rorquals.
I still agree though that no red for alpha. Alpha is supposed to be a trial for new people to see if they like it. Pretty sure people abuse it enough already having more than one logged in at a time. I’ve seen at least one youtuber talk about having multiple alpha accts to give him a competitive edge.
Get rid of this alpha account garbage.
See now this would be the solution, get rid of ALpha accounts and make everyone pay to play again, no exceptions.
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Oh no please don’t do that, it would tempt me to return back…
First of all doing that is illegal.
Even if it wouldn’t be illegal, it is highly inefficient and takes a lot of time and dedication.
What was legal was to make new and new alpha alts. That circumvented the rule of biomassing to get rid of security status (which is against rules no matter if you are alpha or omega btw), but again, it is not effective nor convenient to do. CCP obviously cannot limit you how many alpha accounts you have because anytime your omega can lapse into alpha and you can always use different email/IP whatever.
Either way it wasn’t a problem. CCPs reasonings for that nerf that time was just bs. I didn’t sell them more accounts, it didn’t prevent gankers to multibox. It was only made to cater to the hs carebears and nothing else. After that nerf, the wolf has eaten and the goat ended up whole.
As far as I can figure there are two categories of restrictions on alphas: The first kind is there to sell omega to players who want more. The inability to fly t2 ships is an example. The second kind is meant to limit the potential for established players to exploit alphas for purposes the program is not intended for. The lack of cloaks is an example: Otherwise, say, nullsec alliances could place cloaked scouts in every single system for free.
I’m pretty sure the ganking restrictions are in the second category. I doubt the point is to make it impossible for new players to gank, but to prevent established gankers from abusing the system by creating a whole bunch of alts, either to get a free ganking fleet, or to get around having to care about security status by just making new characters every time it drops too far.
(Yes, the first one is against the rules. So is botting, which we see everywhere anyway, which should serve as an example that something undesired being impossible is a whole lot more effective than it simply being against the rules.)
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[ 2020.11.01 12:38:30 ] Tec8n0 > o/ good morning fellow Abudbanners
I remember @Tec8n0 as a nice ice miner. His careers seems really interesting but using him as a figurehead of your pirate propaganda seems shady at best.
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