An Absurdity With Omega Character Skills

You are right. On reading this thread back, I am brighter than I think :slight_smile:

Given that not one person actually responded to the point. I’ll consider it closed. There’s only so many times one can beat one’s head against a wall.

Why does char 1 have more than char 2 Omega accounts need a buff. Alpha is op. (Sarcasm)

This is not because of the system this is because of your own neglect to your character it could have been equal to the alpha if you chose it to be.

Alpha account gets sp at 1sp a second Omega gets the Alpha amount + since you payed you get an additional 1sp per second if you want you can train both chars at 1 sp per second and alpha + both omega come out even. But if you choose to you can neglect one of those chars and train the other at 2 sp per second. It really is as simple as that.

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You are right about one thing, that in case you have 1 Omega character training continually, it would be free to get SP on an Alpha alt on another account, while it would require MCT to train SP on an alt on the first Omega account.

You were bright enough to spot that opportunity, why not make use of that opportunity? Spin up (endless) new Alpha accounts and train those Alpha skills, for free!

Just know that it will cost you to turn any of them into Omega characters:

  1. Either you have to pay for a second subscription
  2. Or you have to pay transfer costs to move the character from the Alpha account to the Omega account

(That second option can be cheaper than paying for a second subscription or MCT by the way, but still isn’t free like you want it to be.)

Training extra alpha characters is free. Training extra omega characters isn’t.

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But that very one thing I am right about is, from what you continue saying, the very point I have made. And the very fact that you describe the Alpha situation as an ‘opportunity’ shows you clearly see there is an ‘advantage’…just as I have said.

But somehow the ‘pay’ bit gets overlooked in your rationale. All I am doing is making the exact same point without ignoring the ‘pay’ bit or just counting bananas.

The pay bit?

You mean, the bit where you are complaining you have to pay for training a second Omega character on your account?

This game requires funds to develop, funds to continue existing. It’s not a charity.

If you wish to play for free, there are options to play and train for free: alpha characters. They’re limited for a reason though.

It’s quite happy to hand out free SP to people who pay absolutely nothing…yet apparently not give even that half rate free SP to alt characters of the people who are paying for Alphas to get those free SP. Now if that is not absurd…then I don’t know what is.

The alpha account doesn’t give free sp to all chars thou it only gains that sp which can be given to 1 char if you put 2 chars in the alpha then its the same situation as omega.

If both chars in an alpha account could train at those rates then I would agree with you but it is not the case.

Can an ISD close this thread its going absolutely no where feels more like a troll.

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Nothing is ever free. Someone is paying for all that free SP for Alphas. Yes…you guessed it…the very people paying for the Omegas that don’t get free SP on alt characters. So, us Omegas subsidise all the Alphas yet get no similar subsidy ourselves.

What you are missing is that the SP is on an Alpha alt, rather than your intended character. And you cannot get that SP out with extractors to give to your intended character so it’s basically useless SP, even though it is free, unless you intend to play on that Alpha character rather than your paid Omega character.

Yes, you get ‘free SP’, but it’s locked away and not useful for your Omega characters, just like those Alpha characters get free skins (that are activated when redeemed). While the stuff they get is free, it’s also worthless.

What you want is SP on your Omega alt, right?
What you can get for free is SP on a new Alpha character. Which isn’t useful to your Omega alt in any way.

You want something and CCP knows that you want it, which is why they’re selling you what you want (in the form of MCT), rather than giving it to you for free.

And here we have a 90-post thread with you complaining about how you’re not given a paid service for free on the basis that something else is given for free.

And you somehow seem to think that no one understands what you’re saying. Now that is an absurdity.

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Well…no one who doesn’t seem to think ‘that’s just the way it is’ is satisfactory response to anything.

Nope omega gets this free sp as well it just gets more becuase omega.
As I said earlier
alpha = 1a
omega = 1a + 1b
Omega gets what alpha gets + more, nothing is being lost.

I personally pay CCP for it, it’s okay, you can drop the issue. Not like it’s just some number in a database…

Alphas are limited in the amount of SP they can accumulate ‘without doing anything’.

One question, do you play with both accounts at the same time ?

Since I enjoy a Cilla argument…

You don’t get free “extra” sp with an omega acct because you train at twice the speed. (It’s built in) You don’t need free sp because you’re already making more sp than said alpha acct. Add to that, you make 25k omega and only 10k sp with the daily login. (If I remember correctly) I don’t see where alpha’s make more.

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Nope. I have an Omega character that started in October and is on 1.2m SP. I have an Alpha account that started 5 months later in March, and has barely ever been logged in…yet is on almost 2m SP.

I’m simply making the perfectly reasonable point that a character within a paid Omega account should not be worse off in terms of SP than a free Alpha account.

It does not seem reasonable at all if you kicked your character into the gutter why do you expect it to be prosperous? The alpha alt was not abandoned, there is no 2nd char on the alpha account to take the sp crown.

You got me then. When I had my main acct’s subbed and was fooling around with alpha’s, none of them made more sp than my paid acct’s.

And OP can use free alpha accounts to mine free ore for free then sell it for free ISK to spend on free skill injectors to get free unallocated skillpoints for free so it is completely fair and free. :wink: :smirk: :blush:

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O Damn and the free sp will increase the free ore mining speed and free isk and they can then buy plex and get free omega? I think you just broke the game.

Kind of reminds me of when Einstein was stuck with gravity. xD

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Now everyone will know the secret though. :stuck_out_tongue: :upside_down_face:

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Quick ISD delete this thread so it remains secret