An Open Letter to CCP from Current and Former CSM Members on the "Prospector Pack"

[Codename_Razorback]

@Xeux

Criminals are good at their jobs.

My dog will invariably eat cat s💩t if given the opportunity…and he’s good at it.

We The People…can outsmart a bunch of common criminals.

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[Xeux]

@Codename_Razorback

We The People

Carebears?

[Codename_Razorback]

@Xeux

bear

Maybe, maybe so. Call us what you like, but we are essential to Eve Online.

On the other hand, Eve can live without criminals.

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[Arrendis]

@Yareah_Or

I’d have thought they’d just have paid you off.

LOL. Like CCP’s willing to spend the kind of money it’d take to pay Brisc off…

[Ax_l_Thorne]

@Codename_Razorback

On the other hand, Eve can live without criminals.

Is that so?

And what would take the place of them as an isk sink in high and low sec?

[Kenrailae]

@Codename_Razorback

On the other hand, Eve can live without criminals.

This is not the case. Some of Eve’s most successful era’s were when it’s marketing was focused on “criminals”

[Arrendis]

@Xeux

Tethering is completely stupid.

Tethering is the equivalent of sitting inside the force field of an old POS. People being invulnerable while showing up on dscan isn’t anything new to citadels.

[Xeux]

Perhaps.

But POS force fields don’t default to letting any random unknown capsuleer inside.

[Arrendis]

Ok, and? You don’t know what the relationship between the structure owners and the guys sitting on tether is.

[Brisc_Rubal]

@Codename_Razorback

Perhaps you could ask CCP about giving structure owners the ability to block players based on their security status. It would be much easier than constantly updating a “block list”.

Thanks for responding.

This is a good idea. I like it.

[Codename_Razorback]

@Arrendis

Tethering is the equivalent of sitting inside the force field of an old POS.

You do remember that those shields were password protected?

[Arrendis]

@Codename_Razorback

You do remember that those shields were password protected?

Yup. But without knowing the pilot’s relationship to the owning corp, you’ve got no idea what ACLs they’re on. :shrug:

I’m not saying ‘tethering is great’. Just that ‘there’s a guy on d-scan that I can’t shoot’ isn’t a new thing.

[MinorFreak]

giggles

[Ranshe]

@tutucox_Khamsi

bunch of targets floating afk invulnerable

If they’re afk - and for significant amount of time, which seems to be the issue - why don’t you just bump them off?

[tutucox_Khamsi]

@Ranshe

If they’re afk - and for significant amount of time, which seems to be the issue - why don’t you just bump them off?

i try
but the window of opportunity is super small with all those intel chats and stuff
sometimes they come with carriers to fight a t1 cruiser
my real problem is suspect/ criminal invul , that happen even in low

to be frank they made all they could for the crabs to have a happy life
no more belt , no more anomaly they mine in a random moon they Tether
a solo player like me are already in disadvantage , one against many , but nowadays its kinda futile to roam

last time i jumped 60 jumps , got camped in a npc base , got bored , scaped , back dto low, and them i had pvp
but even low is full of farmers

[Slowpoke_Monroe]

So glad I have won Eve. The state of the game is truly horrendous. Seems like CCP nerfs every way of making isk in order to sell more plex and now they want to sell ships. I hope they fire the idiot/s who thought of this.

[Eilen_Indira]

In Remembrance of EVE-O

Go gently, if you can,
Into that dread night
Beloved Eve,
Only nineteen years old.

Go, as last sputtering flame
Of your bitter veterans ancient rage,
Nurtured on thousand forgotten battlefronts,
That sweet righteous anger,
Which kept you safe down these long years
Finally flickers and dies.

We will remember you forever,
Bright glory of your battlefields
Calm serenity of your endless belts
Your secrets and your intrigues,
And long lonely watches
Of your unnumbered nameless wars.

Our final watchfires grow dim
Our long vigil soon over at last
The enemy has finally won
That all-conquering worm of greed
Which oh so slowly
Sucked dry your precious soul.

Go gently, if you can,
Into that dread night
Our beloved Eve,
Only nineteen years old.

Far too late, but signed.

[tutucox_Khamsi]

dude whoooaaa
noice

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Cilla_Cybin

which is why are noobs in Ventures being targeted in the first place. Only the other day I saw a case where a 21 day old noob had his Venture destroyed twice in a row…by some ganker who was proud of it ! And you think that is going to keep people in the game ?

Welcome to EVE This is the game. Don’t like it? HTFU. Stardew is nice this time of year

@Cilla_Cybin

But the whole 'dont fly what you can’t afford to lose ’ mantra is meaningless for someone who is left with 5K ISK and a Velator who’s ore hold fills up just in time for the heat death of the universe.

Then that’s their fault for being terri-bad and unable to Google Us oldies as you called us did just fine with less info.

@Cilla_Cybin

Incidentally…no-one ever tells noobs that it is possible to assemble a mining Venture for just 300K ISK using gaussian lasers.

Yes they do. Its called Googling mining advice and fits. Took me like 2 mins to find all the info I needed. Stop making excuses for terri-bad players

Seriously, if peeps can’t even bother to google and learn stuff, they deserve all the ganking

@tutucox_Khamsi

a solo player like me are already in disadvantage , one against many , but nowadays its kinda futile to roam

I feel you bruv. As another true solo player, fights are few and far between. It is what it is. Just gotta catch what catch can.

[Ax_l_Thorne]

Ganking noobies and enjoying, is perfectly fine. It’s a game where people can explore that aspect of their psyche.

This weird idea that anti-gankers spew that somehow what I do in game is represented of what I do in RL. It’s utter nonsense.

In game, I would blow up your venture in a moments notice. But I wouldn’t ever dream of taking a hammer to someone’s car.

I would hold someone’s ship/pod ransom, and/or sell a mining permit, but if I found a wallet full of cash and credit cards, I would turn it in to my local constabulary, in full.

Are there psychos that play this game just to harass people? Sure. But I think those people are such a small minority that they don’t actually represent the rest of the “content” creator community.

And yes. That is my motivation. Playing a bad guy gives people someone to fight. Someone to rise up against. Someone to talk about. Someone to smack talk.