Wait there was SP booster in the daily logins? I never noticed. Which one was it?
This was the old system it was removed.
5x30 = 150
150+150 = 300
300+75 = 375, which would be the max you can get in a 30 day period.
As opposed to 10x30 = 300
300+120 = 420
And 120 may be low balling it. Rest assured the Daily Login SP totaled more than 75k SP a month for an Omega. You’re getting less.
We know alphas just get less. You can hate on them all you want, but I don’t recall the part in their announcement where CCP said it’s greater rewards for everyone accept alphas. Maybe I missed it, but I only recall it being represented as improved for everyone.
Now I understand you’re saying if you include SP gained across 3 characters the total is more on the account as a whole. The problem with that is the question of why people have more than one character. You’re making it out like people have 3 mains. Generally speaking, the additional character slots are used to accomplish a specific task. To focus train mining, exploration, hauling, a spy, etc. in the short term; things you don’t want to take time out of your main’s training time to do. You train the additional characters slots up to a point to accomplish the role you want for them and that’s that. It also involves buying MCT if it will take a few months to achieve. It’s not the same. This also doesn’t include the loss in boosters, filaments and the Halcyon SKIN line rewards. I guess if you want to SP farm the additional slots there is that.
Your opinions on CCP’s obligations are irrelevant. A nerf is still a nerf. That’s what’s being discussed. They clearly don’t feel the same as you in regard to their obligations. Otherwise, they would not feel the need to lie about the changes. And the dailies aren’t “free”. For an Omega, nothing is free. The Login reward format is irrelevant. The issue is they claimed that they incorporated it into the dailies, but they didn’t. That was a lie. Since they claimed it’s now incorporated into the Dailies, I’d argue it is their obligation to honor that.
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Even with 3 chars per account:
Old 1mil sp per month
New 900k sp per month.
CCP forgot to include the white/green/blue/purple sp every 4 days in their calculations.
But w.e its only 100k.
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for not saying Could care less.
Mr Epeen 
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“Since they claimed it’s now incorporated into the Dailies, I’d argue it is their obligation to honour that.”
Precisely, they must honour their sales pitch
Doesn’t matter that it’s only 100 or so SP’s but the fact is they sold it as more SP’s being provided than were and that is a falsehood
Pretty sure they knew upfront it was going to be less handout in the end. There is no chance multiboxers are going to scan with every character every day to get the sp, so they will lose out. In EVE you will learn to just accept you can login and play on most days and be happy.
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Who is talking about multiboxers?
No relevance at all.
The claim CCP made was that every individual toon could collect more SP under Equinox and it’s a patently false claim.
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What I can’t understand is WHY game companies continue to be so stingy with these or any rewards - don’t they understand that more rewards entice more players? CCP is not the only dev that does this…
It’s as if they think that the rewards are taking away from their income or something and I can’t see how.
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Probably they think anything they give away for free they can’t sell because players have no need for something they get free and know will get free in the future so the less incentive they have to buy instead of waiting.
Despite it has some logic to it don’t think that is how it actually works because even if people wouldn’t get the free stuff they would not necessarily pay for those things anyway but I assume this is their thought process for trying to hand out as little and as useless as possible.
Let me guess, You are one of these i need instant gratification types that hasnt got the patience to let skills train in real time. I wish it was still like that now.
There is more to it than that, should I remind you that the forums are ‘supposed’ to be a civil place…
It depends on whether some people feel that their time is worth spending on this, I still do it even though I did not like it going down to 5k, so after doing the twelve day grind with that nice chunk of SP at the end of it, I am currently doing it for the 5K only unless it rewards you a second time, which I doubt, but I can’t help but think it is barely worth it even though I value the SP in getting my indy alts to max skilled SB pilots now that missile skills mesh with their Transport ships. 5k is kinda meh.
It does get me out and about in space at times when I would normally not bother, but it is borderline…
My suggestion is that the daily amount is increased to 10k after you have done the fourth milestone!
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btw I was pleasantly surprised that the reward is 225k SP for the whole monthly task. Somehow, even though I already claimed it last month I didn’t realize and I didn’t notice that you get both alpha and omega rewards. I only counted with 150k.
Still a better design would be not to use calendar month as a limit, halve the rewards and make it to reset itself after claimed so players are not rushed by ILR and there is bigger motivation to keep doing dailies once the monthly reward was claimed. Which currently is none.
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If you get the daily reward every day, then the average per day is higher than before ((5000*30+225000)/30 = 12500 SP/day). You can also turn the 5 PLEX into a +2 booster from the NES for an extra 17280 SP with Biology V. Furthermore, you get 76% of the reward in 40% of the time if you stop after finishing the 12-days reward track.
So:
- They’ve actually increased the daily SP
- They increased the total reward
- They very greatly reduced FOMO
But players are complaining… It makes me wonder how many other complaints are shortsighted or bogus.
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Let me make it easy to understand.
If I do it every day, which I have been doing. After twelves days I get the nice lump of SP on all my characters, but now for the rest of the month I am doing it for 5k SP per character, which is not a great deal, the issue lies in the period of time once you have completed it, or maybe that is just me. Because if it only gets you out and about for 12 days what about the other days?
That is why after the 12 day period is completed I suggested that it should go up to 10k per day.
I hope it helps in your understanding why I am suggesting an improvement to get people in space and not see it as borderline.
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What I get out of this is they wanted you to stop making real money all day and get on the hamster wheel of making 1m isk per character per day with a 8m bonus and 5 plex after 12 days.
I think you would be better off just mining in a venture 16 hours a day.
The new changes are like a dog chasing his tail…
So it seems that now there are 8 challenges total and reward is double too / 10k SP.
This is crazy beneficial to us, I wonder why they buffed it? Was there too much crying on reddit, or they have data proving that their intention failed already?
You’ve forgot to consider the possibility that someone messed something up when implementing the new changes. 
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Because the player count started dropping about a week after they implemented it, I’d guess. Not to say the two things are related, but CCP tends to react to data and spreadsheet changes far more than player sentiment.
It’s unlikely to be an error on their part since they cover it in their blog. I haven’t checked it out yet but it does seem like an overcorrection though.
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