I wasn’t aware that the paladins of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris needed help. I’ll make sure to relay that to the coordination group.
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Cut the sarcasm and take responsibility for something for once, Priano.
Honestly, I’ll take it as a compliment that you think my actions as an individual pilot affect the fate of the entire cluster. Such power you must think I wield.
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Not your individual actions, Priano. But the collective actions of all the capsuleers who took part in abyssal diving.
I assume you agree that them invading us is a bad thing, right? I think the blame rests with all of those who attacked them, those I’m close with included. I just hope that everyone who was so quick to attack them is just as quick to defend us too.
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Ah, indeed. A far more reasonable perspective than lambasting ‘you fools’ in an ARC thread, though perhaps one somewhat curious as you’ve placed it in a thread posted on behalf of an organization and community that spent the better part of the day in fleet operations.
In any case, indeed, I think we both agree that space-lane security is a shared responsibility.
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Regardless of the motivations, it certainly is now.
Captain Elkin? With great respect, my answer to Samira stands for you as well.
The Triglavians appear to have done everything possible to invite us to dive. They hacked the filaments to allow for trios of divers in frigates; they modified their “loops” to invite us to challenge each other over an additional, special prize; they hacked the CONCORD protocol that “suspect” flagged pilots who dove deeply; they even may have been the ones who hired The Agency last year to hold an event dedicated especially to Abyss-diving.
Even at their most aggressive, they spoke of our need to “prove our flow”-- not to leave. They wanted us there.
This is something else. It looks like, basically, they’re coming after Sansha’s Nation, looking to remove “hivelinking” from known existence. And, they don’t want us tolerating Nation or other “perverse ideologies,” either. I’m not sure how what they’re doing is supposed to help us change the way they want us to, but, I’m not actually sure they understand us all that well. It may be that they’re kind of learning as they go and adjusting accordingly.
Whatever the case, this invasion was probably inevitable from first contact. Unless we could keep them from emerging into K-space-- and I have no idea how we’d have done that …
… they were probably always going to come.
Will you come and help defend?
That question goes to you, too, @Samira_Kernher. These fleets are making strange allies, and we’ll probably need everyone we can get. You took action before, when your home and family were in danger, and, rightly or wrongly, you’ve suffered for it.
Will you be passive, now?
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I’m… not? I’m discussing with you? You know, taking your point and going ‘ok, so what do we make of this?’
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For a moment: Thank you -ARC- for providing Leadership.
Thank you -ARC- for providing me the opportunity to join with others, so I am not left powerless.
Thank you to the F.C.'s and fellow pilots – named or unnamed – past or future – who will measure their volition and act in respect of it by doing the right thing.
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Miss Jenneth I don’t think you will get PIE to do anything unless the Trigalvian threat came bit them in the ass, and especially not now that EM has declared to help
But I may be proven wrong
Up until last year nobody knew they even existed. It wasn’t even clear if they knew we existed until CONCORD poked their noses into the Abyss. They might’ve come, lured by the Drifter aggression (which, by the way, appears to be entirely our fault), but they wouldn’t have known we were here until then - probably.
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What do they even want? What are they going after? Are they attacking planets?
Nobody seems to know. I guess not having heard of distress calls from planetary bodies and stations is a good thing? Or a very bad thing.
So far it only seems to be scouts, as their just seems to be flying around and surveying the system and its structures, along with ships with a tether to said structures.
That is unless a unlucky ship comes within range of them, that isn’t in any form of tether or in a invulnerability field, when they will attack on sight and are not afraid to call in reinforcement should they see the need for it.
They are attacking legitimate traffic unprovoked. Even if not the existential threat some worry they constitute, that counts as an attack that can and should be responded to with force.
Are they attacking baseliner traffic? Or just capsuleers?
Unknown (no reports one way or the other), though the unconfirmed reports of preliminary attacks on citadels, alongside the reports of apparent targeting marks on some planets in the afflicted regions… don’t paint a pretty picture.
Seems to be an extension of the ‘proving’ principle, although how far that is going to go is hard to be sure. We have spent a lot of time trying to open a dialogue with them. It’s difficult to say what prompted the invasion but I think the Sansha may have contributed to it.
Everyone seems to bring that up, but then, why aren’t they just invading the Sansha-controlled regions first?
Actually, that brings up an interesting question- how close are the current Invaded regions to the nearest current Sasha Incursion regions?
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The rot goes deep, I guess? Or like Aria said, maybe they just don’t understand us very well. Or maybe this too is a Proving.
Maybe some or all of the above and more. It’s not like they’re being forthcoming, except with the entropic disintegrators. They’re SUPER forthcoming with those.