You may not have intended it that way, but it comes across as you calling it an exploit
āSimply amazes me how some supposedly leet PvPeeās, in order to maintain an advantage, will always reach for some extreme example in an attempt to justify continued exploitation of an obviously unbalanced game mechanic.ā
Considering you donāt even know how to bump properly, I donāt value your opinion in this topic. You arenāt educated or experienced enough in it to properly have a voice here without looking ignorant.
I encourage you to further explore these mechanics in order to gain a better understanding. Maybe then can you provide valuable feedback.
Anyone can look at a facet of gameplay or a mechanic and have an uneducated opinion of it, thatās cool. Where itās not cool is when you start trying to argue for change when you donāt understand what it even is or how it effects the game in a larger picture. Thatās whatās wrong with every single one of these threads created by ignorant players that only seek to have CCP nerf the game to a point where they feel itās fair.
So @DeMichael_Crimson please invest some time into this topic so you can come back properly educated.
Arianwynn, these guys will never get it, will make up every excuse in the book and even say it can be countered knowing full well the mechanic is very tilted. The real point is that they enjoy using the bumping mechanic, they get their jollies out of it and to some point I do agree, it is a useful tool to combat botting. Although, they canāt come up with any true legitimate claim as to why the mechanic should stay, nor can they come up with a good reason that it should be the way it is. For all the BS and stating about whining, all they can do is come up with some fluff about getting away. It really does not counter the claim that the mechanic has some real issues. But, then they have a lot to loose as they enjoy it how it is. I am sure, no one who has been the victim of bumpers would argue their point. Additionally, they are not just bumping botters, because botters do not provide content for them. They like it when people wiggle and try to get away. They are the true tunnel snakes and want to keep the bumping alive and happy. Their is nothing in it for them other wise.
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Adapt or die.
At this point you are being wilfully ignorant.
A number of us have explained why any change to the mechanic will not do what you think it will.
Educate yourself. Listen to people. And you will get a lot more respect around here even when you are disagreeing with someone.
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Who the hell are you to dictate to me what I should do? I can post my opinion on any topic thread posted in these forums. In fact this is what I originally said:
Last thing Iāll ever do is listen to your fail troll advice, hell, you canāt even provide anything to show the difference between proper and improper bumping. Iām not gonna waste anymore time debating with you, especially when you take a statement pertaining to a totally different reply and twist it around in an attempt to prove your own worthless statement as being the gospel truth.
No one in stopping you from posting your feelings and thoughts. I am just saying thereās not much credibility to them in an actual discussion of game balance when you havenāt done your homework.
I know the nuances of bumping, so you? I know from experience. I know good habits as well as bad habits. If youāre wanting me to breakout into a lesson to teach the mechanics and proper way to bump, then youāre out of luck. I would rather keep the talent and knowledge between those that I know would enjoy benefitting from it, bare minimum you need to at least have a little self-motivation.
Itās kinda like this, if I had a question about how to repair my faction standing I would ask you @DeMichael_Crimson. I would not ask you if the subject matter pertained to anything like bumping.
Facts over feelings. Fact is you donāt know what youāre talking about, and you just canāt put your feelings aside to think properly.
My original statement was about how you saying that CCP can flag bump ships criminal because they use āapproachā. I was trying to help you out by telling you that if you were to have CCP change this then you would find yourself with a patch that didnāt accomplish what you wanted. So if you want to know anything else, just ask. You should stick to what you knowā¦ which is what? Pve thingies?
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I never said make ship bumping criminal either. I said after a set amount of time turn it into suspect. Even though Iām not a programmer nor do I know how CCPās server works, I highly doubt it would be tough for them to do it. Especially since they were able to give me detailed info last year of how my Security Status in 2012 went from +5.80 to +5.76
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Thing is CCP is obviously stretched thin for development time and money because they are working on VR and mobile games.
It took the entire night of Reddit to get them to talk about bogging and change their policy. It took all of Reddit complaining to bring around these last bits of rebalances. I donāt see bumping being something high on their list when you compare it to VR and mobile games. Bring this thread to Reddit and start a big scene is your best shot.
Just one more point to change bumping. As money is tight for them , and you guys get paying or potentially paying customers to quit with the bumping antics, which eventually erodes on CCP profits and eventually the demise of EVE Online as a company in general. A company must continue to make profits over the previous year to stay in business. But, making the game too hard to play makes people quit and not want to play for the game. We know you enjoy your gaming, bumping and other, but, as much fun as you have, you do know that the mechanic is over abused, whether you acknowledge it or not, its not balanced and it leads to people quitting the game with massive griefing. So keep it up, you are not only hurting those in the game with how you play it, but, in essence you are unraveling the very game that you are superiorily bored with and want to quit anyway. So you probably do not care that you are destroying the game in general.
Can you prove to me that people are leaving the game due to bumping mechanics? Like real hard evidence. Something to back up your assumptions please.
Short of putting you in a room with the dozen or so RL friends that I brought into the game over the years and having them directly tell you, what would you suggest.
I can tell you that I personally know people who have left the game over BS like this. I can also tell you that the gankbears would not accept any testimony to that fact even if Godās own Firey Finger wrote it on the wall.
I have known plenty of RL people who played EVE. Every. Single. Last. One. left the game because of predatory PvP and game features that surround it.
That saidā¦ I feel a little icky supporting the OP. He may not really be cut out for the game.
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From reading all of the responses in this thread through again, itās quite obvious that flagging someone for bumping just isnāt going to solve anything.
But here is the bit that none of the pro-bumping side have shown yet: what is your risk vs reward?
Would someone be honest enough to put in writing what your rewards as a bumper are, and what are the risks that you take to reap those rewards?
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