BitterVets apparently do not appreciate the #1 CareBear Rule in HiSec - Warpout if Someone is Already There

No they are not. A limited engagement is always between both people, and as soon as there is such a limited engagement both can fire on each-other without CONCORD intervention.

Then I just warp to a site, cloack up and if some other random PvEer drops in I can kill him without CONCORD.

That ok for you?

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BTW, you can ignore Anderson, she has some serious problem with words.

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No they are not. A limited engagement is always between both people, and as soon as there is such a limited engagement both can fire on each-other without CONCORD intervention.

Ah right, i forgot, usually the guy is suspect/criminal when LE happens but it is true it is mutual and so they can fight even when the suspect/criminal runs out.

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Then I just warp to a site, cloack up and if some other random PvEer drops in I can kill him without CONCORD.
That ok for you?

I ruled cloak out in one of the posts. The first post was just rought draft without much of the thought. Then I realized that it could be abused with cloak, anyway it doesn’t really matter, I am out of this discussion.

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If you want that, you might as well be in low sec. Outside of large gate camps, most things that can lock you in time will be popped by gate guns.
And where being able to shoot people that bother you actually matters, you will have what you want

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I took the time to explain the mechanics of sites to you.

I think you have a major timeline problem in your argument.

This is what happens anyway when the ganker steals loot deliberately flagging himself.

You are thinking the wrong away around. What changes is not when the ganker enters second. Its when the ganker enters first. Which is under your harebrained scheme, the thing that that they will suddenly care about, and work very hard to achieve, because its just going to flag everyone that doesn’t understand the mechanics, which is a massive win for them. People being flagged doing pve. lol.

Not only that, when they find the site, they are not going to complete it, they are going to sit in it. There are only ~4 highsec ded 4 ded signatures per race, so the whole of gurista ded 4s could be easily shut down because 4 out of a population of thousands of gankers want to shut it down. All you would then find is occupied sites, that never move.

Hint : if you actually did a lot of exploration content, you’d be aware that gurista ded 1s (in highsec) have a key exploit, and in the entire time I’ve run exploration content, people who have key control have never relented and left the sites alone for the newbs that they are supposed to be for.

Its not going to happen. bad actor x is going to look at the killboard of bad actor y and chat about taking over the site after bad actor y has finished killing flagged PVE players. What they aren’t going to do is fight each other.

I am the OP and declare that you are the winner of this HiJacked thread. That made me LOL. I am still giggling.

eMail to the CEO. LMAO.

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I’m really glad that you took my post in the manner that it was intended. It was more of a bitch about the “this is mine & I was here first” mind set and never intended to acknowledge or address anyone’s perceived problems. It was, in all honesty, not a poor alpha that mailed my CEO but some pilot who didn’t follow up on his threats and in his bio claimed to be a WH baddie from a C5 corp. Well, that turned out to be a bunch of horse sheet also. Too bad cause I was going to hunt his wh down a attempt to interdict some of his loots.

There was a post about the activity in Hisec where it was reported that ppl were acting badly and I went there to personally observe and wound up participating :slight_smile:

There’s a place you can do this. It is called low sec and null sec…

And if you do that in a system where the inhabitants don´t like that and actually are PVPers, you will start do miss CONCORD…:fedo:

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Oh really? Thank you for reminder, but this thread is about high-sec.

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Actually its about about the lack of appreciation of a made-up rule by people who by definition know better, while in hisec to be specific.

SO, on topic; There’s no such rule.

More specifically there is the exact opposite of this supposed rule. Nothing in space belongs to you until it’s in your hangar. Those who leave a site when someone is there do so from a misguided sense of politeness.

This is a game, fun in a game comes from competition, players have a duty to provide that competition in EvE otherwise it becomes stale very quickly.

All in my opinion of course :slight_smile:

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People need to realise that, unless they can back it up with force, their self imposed rules don’t apply to anybody but themselves.

I’d steal stuff from this guy just for the tears, well that and any transfer of stuff from him to me is to my benefit; stuff being my stock in trade.

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Solution: person that starts a site gets to start combat with a person that targets anything on grid in a HS site.

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For crying out loud this is the most pathetic whine thread. Let it die already.

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Can we please implement this. This would be gewd.

so can just fly around every site in a constellation and shoot one frig then no one can run any sites unless they wanna get blown up

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EVE is a competitive game. It doesn’t matter who gets to the site first. It just matters who grabs the loot and can hold onto it. Don’t like it, go play another game.

Ssschhhh

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The only reason I run a site in high sec is if I see someone in it on Dscan. There is no other reason to be there.

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Mining other peoples rocks and lasering off with as little as possible left int he rock wasting their cycle time and swiping other peoples combat sites or even better mission specific items are the best things to do in highsec though :smiley: