Made my own guide then compared to this and he is still spot on when it comes to level 4 missions
bump for folks
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Yeahhhh… about that. ■■■■’s about to get real tomorrow.
Goodbye sweet missions. Hello hard mode.
Already adapted my builds so all should be good 
I’m wondering if my new-and-improved lower-resist %ages Talos Base Burner Deimoses will be able to survive the 150km 100MN AB burn to the targets to use their tasty +15% damage void blaster pew pew pew on 'em.
I’m having real issue with the Burner Worm mission. I’m rocking the Dramiel fit, but it’s too slow to get within scram/web range. The Worm does a 3600m/s orbit at like 40kms and I can’t intercept it’s orbit to scram it. Any suggestions?
Edit: I had an AB fit instead of MWD lmao.
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Thanks for the guide! It really helped me understand how blitzing works.
One point I need some clarification on:
Do I need a different ship for each type of burner mission? Since there are so many fits and variations I wasn’t sure.
@Cytochrome_C Late reply.
There are three types of burners:
- Anomic Team (4 different missions): You will need one fit for all four of them
- Anomic Agent (5 different missions): You will need either one ship (Nergal) alternating fits, or 4-5 specially designed fits, kinda one for each mission.
- Anomic Base (4 different missions): I dont know about them, since I havent tried them yet.
My advice is to do it step by step. Go to SiSi (test server) and try the universal fit for the Anomic Teams.
After a few successful missions for each different Team mission, you can start doing it at the live server.
Next, find a few fits for each Agent mission, I would suggest Serpentis Agent and Angel Agent and try them at at SiSi, since they need alot of skills (armor and gunnery).
If you have skilled at Trig ships (Nergal), you can start doing it with a Nergal, but it needs alot of skilling, maybe 90+ days from a non triglavian skilled character.
When you are able to do most of Anomic missions, then you can decline a lot of missions and just do the ones that are truly fast blitzable and the Anomics to greatly increase your L4 isk/h.
IIRC you just need 30 days to get triglavian frig V, and weapon spec V.
I was including the skill set that is needed to be able to run Anomics with success.
Most of them are needed when running Anomics with other ships also, so its a win-win skilling up the common skills first and after that the skills for the Nergal and jump to that option (Nergal) when skills are trained.
then you need adv weap upg V and the likes and it’s more like a 6 month skill queue … at least
Has anyone a good Idea how to run burner talos if MWD sig bonus on HACs is gone? Just tried it with my Deimos on singularity and I got so much damage during flight that I couldn’t even reach the first burner in the room. The only thing that comes to my mind is fitting a 100MN Afterburner somehow.
had to swap 2 propmods for a multi and adc. again a bad move from ccp.
The Fit below actually works like a charm.
If you want it cheaper, simply change the Core A-Type 100MN Afterburner for a 100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner. You’ll be a little slower though.
To me, this is even easier than using a microwarpdrive, because once you get past 1000 m/s the talos’ actually don’t hit you at all. At around 50km distance, I simply burn directly towards the talos, because I suck at piloting manually with a 100MN afterburner. At around 15-10km, turn of AB, orbit at 3.3km, activate second repper and start shooting.
This is actualy Hateless Burner Talos Deimos fit ajusted to use a 100MN AB. For a gerneral guide on the mission use Hateless’ Video
[Deimos, DT Expensive Post HAC nerf]
Corpus X-Type Kinetic Armor Hardener
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Centus X-Type Thermal Armor Hardener
Reactor Control Unit II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Core A-Type 100MN Afterburner
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Hornet I x2
Hobgoblin I x7
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x500
Void M x1505
Null M x970
Agency 'Hardshell' TB3 Dose I x1I’m using an Enyo with microwarpdrive, afterburner and blasters. Approach with MWD (manual flight), set orbit to 1km (when you are at 20km) and switch to afterburner. Its a cheap fit and does a good job. Sometimes i didn’t need to rep my enyo.
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Sounds great and I imagine you’re probably twice as fast. How long does it take you to kill a Talos? Can you post the fit?
I use the same (without AB), here’s my fit
Fit
[Enyo, Simulated Enyo Fitting]
Small Armor Repairer II
Shadow Serpentis Thermal Armor Hardener
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Small Knave Scoped Energy Nosferatu
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator II
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Void S x48000
Nanite Repair Paste x250
Should take somewhere between 8-12 minutes to complete. Killing the first one can be tricky if your orbit inclination matches the rats’ transversal, in that case you will have to manually handle your orbit with an upward-downward motion. The one in the middle usually doesn’t pose any problems, but you may have to adjust your orbit there too. You pretty much always have enough time to react though. I like it because I run missions in nullsec, so the comparatively higher agility/speed and cheaper price is a bonus.
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Val en Thielles described it well.
I guess i need 2min to kill one talos.
[Enyo, *Talos]
Small Armor Repairer II
Thermal Coating II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1MN Afterburner II
5MN Microwarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Kinetic Armor Reinforcer II
Void S x2136
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Thank you both for your insight on using this ship.
I just tried it on Singularity and it also works like a charm.
I got hit once and it ate 75% of my shields when I lost speed trying to get to the loot of the first talos. As expected it takes a little longer to kill the talos, maybe 1,5 - 2 times longer, which makes sense because you only have 60% of the dps of a Deimos, but this is easily compensated by the decreased time to reach the talos.
The most remakable advantage though is the cost of the fit. At around 50 Million you can actually loose a few Enyos and it won’t hurt you too much.
I don’t really know, it might be a little more foolproof in a deimos running two reppers simultaneously while you’re vulnerable to the talos, but I don’t think it outweighs the advantages of using the Enyo.
Potentially returning soon… I thought they got rid of Sisi??
I would love to be able to practice blitzing again. I don’t want to lose all the shiny ships I worked hard for…
Yes. I’ve been using 100MN AB Deimoses for years for the Serpentis Talos Base Burner.
midslots are literally nothing but 100MN AB and faction cap rechargers for all the other slots.
I triplebox, so I send each of my Deimoses to a different Talos at the same time. 3:30 to 3:45 from warp-in to done.
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