Build Bigger gates, allow CAPITAL to fly more freely?

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Capital ships are so large that you need to anchor them outside a station,
and normal gates are too small for them to pass.
I always wondered why couldn’t a Carrier fly in normal space like other ships.
And with all these years, if all four factions couldn’t have built bigger gates
that would allow Capital movement also.
I think this would facilitate faction warfare in some sense, when finally
a pilot could train for a Capital, it would also make life easier for them.

Regardless if faction warfare is seen as Pve or PvP.
If it’s run like some sort of FC jherarchy, or not.

We can build Capitals in Dodixie, or Amarr, or Jita, and let them move out.
There’s no need for them to stay in those systems anyway.
But it would be kinda cool to see one or two Capitals from time to time,
roaming even these HS systems, to clear out some Highly
risky, Vanguard Incursion.

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Other than freighters, I don’t think we’ll ever see mainline capital ships in high-sec.

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There is an anom mission with a Carrier. Lv4 Pve.
So on paper, some of them they are already here.
It would be a huge jump in risk associated with it.
But it might be worthy, depending on what kind of expansion
those guys at Fenrir are imagining the next Eve to be.

Just thinking about it in mapping possible space where these ships can go, would be a possible achievement for the next TODO on the road.

Make a permanent gate that could access Pochven?

Make a secondary map layer consisting of only WH space?

Then allowing bigger ships to use these new anchored gates,
it might be the next big thing for Eve. Idk…

For security reasons alone, I don’t see that many of these new kind of gates to be built, and certainly not in jita or Amarr, except maybe only for Faction warfare emergency use??
That’s an idea.

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Make a secondary map layer consisting of only WH space?

That is already how the J systems work, and a map of wormhole space would just be a bunch of dots that don’t mean anything to you

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Everyone brain is a bit different from the other, even if next to it…
We didn’t have filaments before, we have them now…
So it’s a string theory against a dark matter theory…
One of the two must collapse one day or another.

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Right but you’re missing the key point, it would just be a literal cloud of dots, there would be no visual connections, it would by definition not be a “map” of wormhole space it would be just a list of system names

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Try leaving high security space if you wish to see and fly capital ships!

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I was thinking about the possibility to add some content…
Some kind of multi-system wide gates also, that are not only meant for Sub-Capitals to move without all the logis usually involved…
As someone said… we already have freighters in HS…
It’s just an idea like another…
Something completely different.

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Not every idea is like other ideas.

Some ideas are good. Some bad. Not every idea is worth sharing.

When it comes to combat ships with capital-level EHP, have you ever considered how these ships would be practically impossible to kill in parts of space where CONCORD roams to revenge illegal attacks?

There’s a good reason capital combat ships aren’t allowed in HS space, so unless you also ask for removal of CONCORD it’s not a good idea to add capital ships there.

So again, if you wish to see or fly capital ships try leaving HS space.

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No thanks. Caps can stay right where they are.

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Low sec and nullsec aren’t ‘normal space’?

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Concord can kill caps, it takes them a little longer but afaik you cannot manage to tank them indefinitely even in a super

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I just don’t know what the point of capitals in high-sec would be. I guess Rorquals could mine, but that’s about it. Are incursions still a thing?

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The thing I’m referring to is CONCORD killing the people who would attack the cap.

The cap would be practically invulnerable, like HS structures would be if HS wars did not exist.

Invulnerable ships don’t fit EVE well.

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To allow capitals in high-sec would just turn high-sec into large warship parking. I can envision a half dozen or more Titans parked off Jita 4/4.

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I think I’ve seen a few Titans parked off Amarr Prime.

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Those are old rusted hulks, they don’t even fly anymore.

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The only way caps should be allowed in high sec is if they have suspect status permanently. And if you build capital gates they should not be in every system gates but constellation gates or even regional gates that allow it. But I think even that could be abused, but it’d make some systems definite choke-point systems.

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I’m still not sure what you’d even do for activities in high-sec with a capital warship…

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Unless FC would create some people would probably run incursions, L4s and mine in them Im sure. It would be stupidly unbalanced imo. But if they want to and can defend them theyd make great bait ships like the bait orca… just bigger! :smiling_face_with_horns: Or else theyd just be bigger explosions.