And people just keep feeding and feeding, adding to the problem.
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Steam is a mayor gaming platform base indeed.
But how many EVE players use Steam? I guess not even half.
And how many Steam users use Linux? A quick google shows me 1%:
Steam on Linux Finally Hits 1% User Share for First Time in Years
While it is possible that the share of linux players for EVE happens to be much bigger than that of other games, I would think that this 1% is a good indication of the amount of gamers playing on Linux.
So if CCP has to decide what to spend less on, I can imagine them spending less on that part of the playerbase that represents such a small amount of players.
Yes, some people may play EVE on linux. But youâre not representing any significant part of the (potential) playerbase.
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A small % of a huge number is still a big number.
Steam is a HUGE number. (Circa. 25 MILLION).
1% is 250,000 (big number).
Thatâs not counting those Linux gamers not using Steam.
Before we start throwing with numbers, please specify what numbers youâre using, where you got them and what they represent.
25 million, what is it? Steam players? ProtonDB users? EVE players through ProtonDB? 1% of the EVE playerbase?
Source: ⢠Number of Steam users 2021 | Statista and Steam: Game and Player Statistics
And it is INCREASING (going UP, getting a BIGGER NUMBER).
Not only is the Steam user count going up, so is the Linux user count.
Oh youâre talking about STEAM users?
Itâs like talking about the amount of water drinkers. Yes, some of them might be EVE players, but itâs kind of irrelevant to this discussion, donât you think?
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We donât have those numbers, but you talked about 1% being tiny on Steam, I proved it is not a small number.
250,000 (and increasing) potential customers is no small number.
QED
but how many of them are playing EVE??
We donât know as CCP donât tell us.
I wish they would.
Why donât they tell us, itâs not super secret, other companies list their platform user counts.
It would put this argument to rest tbh (for a while).
Not sure what they gain from keeping the platform usage hidden, we pretty much know itâs dominate by Windows.
Okay, some napkin math:
- Amount of Steam EVE players: EVE Online - Steam Charts
~3540 average amount of players last month - Amount of EVE players: EVE-Offline :: EVE-Online Status monitor
21k average last month
Percentage of EVE players that plays through steam: 3.5/21 = 17%.
(Yes, comparing two different averages from eve-offline and whatever steam used isnât completely accurate, but total accuracy isnât intended here, I just want to get a good approximation)
Amount of Steam players that use linux: Steam on Linux Finally Hits 1% User Share for First Time in Years
We donât know the amount of EVE players that use linux, but letâs make an educated guess and assume it is similar to the amount of Steam players that use linux: 1%.
0.01x0.17x21000 = about 36 accounts online on average through Linux
I might be wrong and it might be twice as many, or fewer. But itâs hardly a big number.
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36 players, lol, that doesnât pass my smell test.
Also, dual booters or those Linux users who threw in the towel and use Windows, but would also use Linux if native (perhaps similar scenario for some Mac users).
Thatâs a bold assumption.
It could be 3 multiboxers.
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Nicely trolled, however, multiboxers are what % over all, but thatâs another discussion topic I think 
Like i said, centralised support system and players with disposable income, compared to linux users without a centralised support system, are you going to volunteer to test the game on every possible distro? no?
Well thats why you donât get a linux client, you chose the hard life
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Circa. 250,000 gamers on Steam have chosen that life, and itâs a growing gamer base, and thatâs just Steam.
As for support, well, the internet runs on Linux and BSD, no centralised support needed, the tools used by application developers are documented and supported by major companies (not to mention contributions to the Kernel itself, even Apple contributes technologies to the Linux and BSD and Unix ecosystem, so does Valve).
OpenGL, Vulkan, QT, Python.
Your centralised support system argument falls down. If that was required for success, it wouldnât be on Steam at all, there are many big title games on Linux NATIVE (major game engines are cross platform), they seem to have no problem whatsoever. You seem to be using arguments from the 90âs, those arguments no longer are applicable.
For such a terrible platform (and tiny gamer base), why would Valve be investing in it and building services and products around it.
Steam Deck, built on top of Linux. It is not built from Windows, and it is not build from the Mac.
You and 6 other people are clearly enraged.
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Cool and?
You realise 250k is a literal drop in the ocean in terms of PC gamers right?
There is if you want gamers to be supported, each of these tools has their own support systems, which doesnât help CCP lol
Also most of those devices are embedded systems that arenât being used for games so a literal moot point
Cool you think listing technologies means linux gamers are worth supporting? 
Where does it, youâve just proven why its not possible, like i said, numerous distros with differences and quirks, unless you have a way to quickly test against all of them and guaranteed support youâre not going to bother supporting them, its pretty simple
Because linux is free, they donât have to pay licensing for it like they would windows or OSX or Android if they were to ship things like the steam deck with those systems, and if you want proton to work properly go speak to vale, the people who made it, its not down to CCP to waste resources supporting a tool that most players arenât going to bother using, youâre still a tiny percentage
I mean, i get that youâre trying to bait responses, whatever makes you happy i guess, but at the end of the day it wonât change the facts
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How many gamers does Eve have?
And what percentage of those are linux gamers?
I think we call that checkmate
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250,000 potential gamers, thatâs no small number, if it was small, why are major game companies releasing their games NATIVE on Linux (Borderlands 2 is native for example).
Not to mention Valve games are native.
Eve gamer base is tiny compared to Linux gamer base on Steam alone.