The Abyss doesn’t generate any ISKs. Any ISKs you expect to get but don’t receive is a player-made problem. Those who end up with the highest quality items then don’t complain here. I’d say those who complain only got ripped off by others and should complain to them, but it isn’t CCP who makes the prices.
You still just want to make ISKs and completely ignore the rest of EVE and you think of premier content as a premier ISK printing machine for your personal use only. Instead, the premier part is that you have to interact with others to get the price you think you deserve.
Bugs and server instability aside is greed the problem here.
I was merely stating that I had not run the sites, because I think to even do level 4 and level 5 sites I have to have very good SP related skills and have the ISK to fit a ship to the top end, and put the right implants in, and as I am an Alpha and have little ISK I cannot run those sites.
To extrapolate that into saying that I wanted to make it so Alpha’s can run level 4/5 sites is what you did. Either you are trolling or you have a habit of taking everything out of context.
Holy ■■■■. I ran 3 and them and I was already bored to death again because it’s like every EVE PvE ever just a stupid chore. And since there is noting you can earn there that you can’t also buy on the market I have no motivation whatsoever to run one of them ever again.
Stop it. You’re only saying you’re complaining about content you haven’t even tried yet. I’m not calling you a troll, am I? I know you want to try the Abyss and cannot go in there. When you there want to accuse someone of extrapolating then start with yourself.
This thread is about the fact that CCP is stopping suspect flagging temporarily in hisec, and my comments were in the context of hisec players not really being able to run this context as easily compared to nullsec players due to less ISK in their wallets generally and a less safe place to do it from.
I stated that it was a pretty obvious thing to happen, people in hisec have a multitude of reasons to be more risk averse, including attitude, but lower levels of wealth is certainly a factor, add to that greater risk of being caught coming out of the site and the result is what we see.
You haven’t even tried the content, and yet you are attacking players like Fluffy Moe who has.
You are moving the thread out of comtext and personally attacking people like Fluffy Moe, you are trolling them, you should stop it and go away as you are adding nothing but hyperbole to this thread.
it’s really funny how the faction that gets their asses powdered for 15 years now_(pvp) tries to make the only real content pve gets in the last 5 years bad because it’s NOT pvp…
I’m not attacking him. I’m setting his expectations right. I don’t have to try the Abyss to know where the ISKs are coming from. All I do here is to remind you and others of the principle of demand and offer. And other than your complaints do you have nothing to offer. Others then are selling Abyss items.
You will need to explain yourself better, I merely see another out of context extrapolation from another poster, I hope that they keep the suspect status thing off by the time I get into an Omega account so I can give it a go, even with the certain death spawn that my friends told me about.
Demand, well if hardly anyone is running them and there is a demand then people will start running them as the profits will be significant. That is pretty basic stuff, I don’t understand why you keep going on about something so obvious.
No, it’s not, because we wouldn’t have these complaints if it was. And it took you a while before you got it, didn’t it? Don’t pretend now you got it the first time. You were only repeating hear-say because someone with three Titans told you.
I always understood that, I don’t know where or when, or even how you decided that I did not not understand that basic principal.
The context is always about the suspect status in hisec being removed. Personally I don’t think it will make too much of a difference to the numbers running this content in hisec, though I could be wrong, even though it does reduce the risk a significant amount, but there are other factors in play here which I have explained.
Anyway will be interesting to see, don’t you think.
It will be interesting to see what is considered a success on this action.
If the number of t4/t5 sites completed increases it will be harmful to the value of the loot and therefore a failure, if the number of sites doesn’t change meaningfully then it’s was waisted effort and wasn’t necessary to change to begin with.
That right there is one of the main reasons why the general playerbase isn’t really running those sites.
Not sure why you’re bringing up marketing, selling items gained from exploration sites is an extra bonus if they happen to drop, collecting bounty from exploration sites is what pays for the time invested to run them. As for selling modules created from mutaplasmids gained from Abyssal sites, players have a small chance of actually getting those mutaplasmids and an even smaller chance for the modules to have a successful mutation.
All in all the lack of rewards from that very risky content makes it not worth the time to run those sites, especially after factoring in the cost required to run the sites.
Wow, you make it sound like making ISK is a bad thing. Anyway, not sure where you got that idea from, like I said before, I don’t care about Suspect Flag.
Bottom line is if the content doesn’t generate enough reward to offset the cost of the risk, then most players won’t bother engaging in that content.