Miners work hard to sustain a steady flow of materials in New Eden, some might even agree that without Miners there would not be much requirement for Gankers.
To justify the downtime caused by gankers, it would be notworthy to allow the Miner to jettison their precious cargo into space locked inside a cargo container that acts simular to a type of asset safety (in space)
This safety container then has a countdown timer that is only extractable or destroyable by either the miner Pilot or the Pilot who first criminally engaged the miner to begin with, now by making such change and adding a short timer allows either Pilot (Miner or Ganker)
to have a chance of claiming the precious cargo by being able to set an unlock code on the container before it had been anchered, the timer starts the anchor process and the immune to destruction until anchored.
Once anchored the Container can be accessed by entering the correct code/pw simular to a normal secure container operates.
Final note, this same process can also work for haulers to be able to continue the steady flow of materials.
OP, thereâs little chance of getting any traction with a request to CCP to âfixâ ganking or improve minersâ chances. Ganking has been a feature of EVE since inception, discussed endlessly, and seen little effective change - some tweaking to numbers here and there is about all CCP does/will do.
Youâre better off educating yourself as to how, where, why and when gankers are likely to select you as a target, and then learn how to avoid them. This might be a good place to start, as well as googling various âhow avoid ganksâ topics:
In the meantime, prepare for many replies from people who relish the opportunity to further dunk on someone whoâs already been dunked on, because apparently theyâve forgotten what itâs like to be new in the game.
Why do I ever sit in front of my screen if playing EVE AFK is so usual?
Also, how can I be AFK when the asteroids I might be mining disappear and my modules stop every 10 minutes? Whatâs that trick the AFKers use?
This change is not to prevent ship loss or in anyway to discourage Gankers.
The message being delivered here is not only to encourage safer handling of ore or goods in New Eden, it is focusing on the downtime caused resulting in loss of ore or materials.
We already have residue loss on an Asteroid to contend with and to overcome such greater skill training is required to try to counter that either with switching to mining crystals or even implants and even as far as multiboxing mining to make up the difference in time lost without being greedy.
The monthy reports will still show ship destruction and perhaps even greater ship loss may result from such small change to how extracted material is handled as a change such as this could increase the number of New Capsuleers deciding to becomming a miner while staying longer in space or gaining a increased presence in Eve Online knowing that the time spend extracting or or gas is not a waste of time.
Letâs not get hung up and lose focus on the message being sent here, and Pilot history should not be the discussion, rather I invite you to embrace the possible idea of a change such as this.
It might be easy to overlook the importance and concern I hold close to my chest with Eve Online.
The goal is to not be there when gankers arrive on grid. That requires paying attention. And if youâre getting blown up while mining in low or null, thatâs not ganking, thatâs PvPâŚ
So do a lot of other folks, including gankers and their supporters, some of whom are also miners, industrialists. Do you think gankersâ ships and modules are bought in Jita?
If you donât get ganked, you donât lose ore. So, donât get ganked.
What youâre asking for is a buff to Highsec mining, and you give no reasonable justification for it. No ganker is going to bother farting about with an ore container. Heâll just blap your ship, take what drops and swan off into the sunset.
What downtime? How much âdowntimeâ are we talking about here? If you can quantify your assertion, Iâd be pleased to further consider what you say.
You provide opinion, Count Felix, not justification. And you do notâŚ.persuade.
Look I feel for you. You got ganked. Never pleasant⌠But here is the thing. I have been playing for the last 6 months. Have been chased by two different gankers.
The first time the wife and I were moving through jump gates slowly. New to the game and not real sure how we would find each other if separated.
We picked him up going through one gate. I looked to see the pilots name. It was red. Going through the second gate I told the wife to warp and dock at an NPC station. I made it through first and warped and docked up. The wife came through a little behind me and didnât know where I was. I told her and undocked. She saw me and warped in and docked up. As I was docking up our good buddy was just landing on grid. After about ten minutes I undocked just in time to see him warp off.
What we did to attract such attention. Was the way we were going through the gates. I am sure he/she thought we did not notice that we were being followed and was waiting for us to get to a belt to start mining. Then gank us.
What we did right. Was notice and check out who was coming through the gates with us. Responded in such a way that made us a harder target to gank.
The second time was me just dozing and then seeing two ships suddenly coming my way that had gankers written all over it. Warped out quick.
Now here is the thing. In both cases I was doing something that made me a target. Flying in New Eden is like walking down a city street in the worse neighborhood. You walk with a purpose. Staying in the middle of the side walk. And do not stop and look around. Just continue to walk until you are out of that area.
In New Eden you fly with a purpose. Always being aware of where you are and where you are going. If lost. Dock up. Spending ten minutes at a gate looking at the map is just asking to get ganked.
As for the players that go AFK and are multiboxing. They know that at some point they are going to lose ships and have it in their budget. Anyone else that is AFK in a single ship. That is their own fault for being AFK.
New Eden is not the typical resource management/empire building/Hauling/PVP/PVE game. And that is a great thing.
To undergo this transition of the change, would everyone be onboard if the OreHold of the Mining Vessel to become the secured container the moment of ship loss?
This then could apply to all hauler cargo holds and by protecting all precious cargo while undocked in New Eden.
I donât know about âeveryoneâ but I would be. But itâs not everyone that you need to convince, itâs a couple of CSMs or devs.
I like the idea but I donât see it implemented. Not yet at least.
