Clarification: New WarDec

In order to declare an aggressive war, the attacking side must now designate a specific Upwell Structure that they own somewhere in highsec space as the “War Headquarters” for that war.

So how does this work for alliances? An alliance of 3 corps for example only has one structure owned by Corp A. Can Corp B or C start an Aggressive war or do all the corps in the alliance need to each own a station if they want to wardec separately?

What a f&*king mess…

Oh and thanks for doubling the price too CCP…way to make things even safer in HS…FFS what a joke.

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The Alliance in that case is a single entity, so if one corp declares a war (and selects a structure they own for HQ) then whole alliance enters that war with that structure as HQ. At least thats how i understand it.


I just know CCP’s fleet of lawyers would have a field day with that line…

When you say “THEY”, do you mean the corp that declared or the alliance (ie another corp in the alliance owns an Upwell)?


I’d guess “they” can only select something “they” own, to prevent coding issues. :smile:

And since “they” is in the same sentence as “corp”, I’d assume thee author used proper grammar.

Though, i could be assuming too much… :wink:

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I hope the milk in your refrigerator is past its best before date.


That being said, this small bit of info is rather crucial…

I don’t get it. :confusedparrot:

I don’t understand your question. Have corps in an alliance ever been able to wardec separately? I’m no expert on these matters, but AFAIK it’s the alliance as a whole that wardecs or not and it doesn’t matter which corp in the alliance owns the War HQ…

Yes, a corp (not main) in an alliance could WarDec before. In game you can look at, for example, The Conference Elite’s finished wars and you will see a whole wack of wars declared by them.

I think…err…

Not sure what you mean. If you check The Conference Elite’s alliance history and the dates of those wardecs, you’ll see they have only been at war when they were not in CODE or any other alliance…


Ah you are right!

So then your suggestion that only the Executor Corp would make sense…that line member corp would request the WarDec on behalf of the alliance…and thus the Executor Corp would assign the HQ to that war.

I guess the Executor Corp would be able to select a station from all alliance corps…? Not sure as again, never been there.

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I would like to know the answer to the above. My intuition tells me the executor corporation would need to own the structure it selects as a war HQ, but I don’t see a source that makes it clear either way.

I don’t know the procedure to do it, but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t matter which corp in the alliance owns the War HQ, just that it has to be a structure owned by any of the corps in the alliance.

That’s something that may be inferred from this in the War, War Sometimes Changes dev blog:

If the corporation that owns the War HQ leaves their alliance, the war involving the alliance will enter the 24 hour cooldown and the new war spawned between the leaving corporation and the target will continue to be valid.

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This provision would be necessary even if external selections can’t be made because the executor corporation can change at any downtime. Each member corporation declares support for a corporation, and whoever has the requisite support becomes the executor. A corporation can change its declaration at any time. This is why you will sometimes see alliances with similarly named numbered members. They are creating alt corps enough that the actual members can not wrest control.

The executor corporation could still have been the executor corporation when the war was declared, allowing that HQ to be selected, and later lost their position, but the war wouldn’t be invalidated, continuing on with the structure the then executor corporation selected. I still don’t see something that conclusively proves an alliance executor can (or can’t) select structures they do not personally own. We can only speculate until an alliance actually goes through the motions to see if it is possible.


OK, thanks for the detailed explanation. From a logical point of view seems it doesn’t make sense to require the War HQ be in the executor corp, but I guess you mean the user interface may currently not provide the means to choose a structure in a corp other than the executor.


Ditto from me…Hope a well meaning alliance sees this and posts to clarify…

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Happy to.

I did this a couple of weeks ago, but wasn’t thinking about whether I can select structures outside my Corp’s ownership, but within the Alliance:

I’ll drop a citadel on SiSi with my alt that is the CEO of one of the other Corps and then see what happens.

So it’ll take a day to update on the outcome

Until then, drinks are on me…:cocktail:

Thanks for all the replies in this thread folks…it’s a tiny detail but as you all know, tiny details is what Eve (and life) is all about.

I can drop alliance on Sisi and join yours today and you can see if you can select any of my structures. How about that?

Yep that will work.

End of Life is the Alliance.

I can confirm then in about 3 1/2 hours from now.

Note that if you do that, I’ll see where your structures are on TQ (but not pass that on anywhere). So only do it if you are good with that.

The things we do for science… Sign me up!