Cloak changes

If you can’t defend the system then you don’t deserve to own it.

Yes you botters and krabbers don’t want it, just like you don’t want a GOOD game you want a garbage farming simulator. And yes, there are plenty of you out there and yes lately CCP follows the short term money instead of making the game good for the long haul. Sad but true. Blackout should have remained many people did enjoy blackout, how the game should have been from the beginning without this local crap. Then you could be given some intel tools to actively learn what is in space. Instead we have flipped the other way, after all bots are paying customers too right?

You don’t have to ‘own’ a system to want to interact with afk cloaky campers.

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You keep harping about bots. They are not a problem in our space. We don’t accept or tolerate them. I won’t reply to any other ■■■■■■■■ post about bots.

“GOOD game” is relative term. What’s good to me isn’t so to you. So that too is a redundant point. Apparently not enough “many” people liked the blackout because CCP reverted it when the outcry and cancelled subs started piling on. You’re entitled too your opinion just like me just so happens that yours is apparently a minority.

The game offers you an avenue for what you’re here asking for. Again if you don’t like local go play in wormholes. You won’t be missed.

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Stop this crybears. Because of your krabb mentality you want Explorers cloak defense to be nerf. Cloacky campers are your sole problems in Null. Why explorers should suffer from your inability to fight cloaky campers.

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… for AFK farmers, botters, and people without backup. For everybody else it was and is a non-issue.

I only want counter play to afk campers. I’m not advocating for any other nerf or changes to active players using them. How this would be accomplished I honestly don’t exactly know. I use them too all the time and don’t want to see the cloaky bomber or explorer roles nerfed. I haven’t asked for that in any of my posts. Like the saying goes assuming makes an ass of you and of me. Might try reading a whole post before assuming wrongly.

It’s a big enough problem that ccp is stepping up to fix. So you’re just wrong.

Aha! So you DO agree this was the problem plaguing 90% of eve community!

Yeah, because the AFK farmers and botters dominate the CSM.

Wait, you are talking like this is real, not just wishfull thinking, got a link?

The main reason to only have it in sov null is that is the only space anyone can claim to own.

Outside of that it is just a bot buff.

Link or lie?

I wonder friend, are you also willing to give up your own unlimited free intel, as I suggested above?

I.e. no more ships in space, NPC kills, active cynos, pathfinder, etc?

Yup, I am perfectly fine with it. When blackout happened, sure it was more effort to get intel and monitor eyes but we did just fine. The other intel shouldn’t be there without actually going to take a look either. Get rid of it all.

The answer is no. If it were yes he would already be in wormhole space having a blast. As it is he is just on the forums crying about things he really doesn’t understand.

Wormhole =/= simply null without local. It is you that really doesn’t understand. What do you expect though from a super ratter that lets 1 afk cloaker take down their whole donut.

… But you’re asking for no local… I’m done lmfao.

Lack of instant local is not the sole feature of wormhole space. Asking to remove oppressive local intel from Null is not asking to turn Null into J-space. There is more different between these categories of space than the behavior of Local Chat.

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The real issue is the NEED to AFK CLoak, to counter Local.

So,
Remove a cloaked vessel from Local, and deny them Local (and D-scan) while cloaked.

You have to be active to get any intel.
If you break cloak to get intel, you appear in local.
This way active and alert system residents can notice you are around.

AFK Cloaking is not a useful tool anymore.
But Local is no longer a safety-net of intel.

Cloakers can stalk and surprise their prey.
Residents can set traps with a cloaked defense force hiding near one of their lone miners.

There you have it, normal cloaking is not harmed, AFK cloaking is no longer useful.
You are welcome.

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See, I think a lot of people are overlooking that defenders can leverage lack of cloaked ships in local chat just as much as attackers. Invisible defense fleet using standard cloaks to bait a juicy-looking trap… yes, please!

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Lol. Krabbers don’t want to do this. They just want to krabb without pvp annoyance. Null tantrums against cloaky campers are just like Highsec tantrums against suicide gankers.