[COMPLETED] Extended Downtime Notification - 7 December 2021

THANK YOU

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You get all your SP back, and the new skills require less SP than the old skills so you will have surplus SP. The isk value for the old books were also reimbursed.

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Depending on the skills you had before though you might not be able to use the crystals you were able to use before.

Is it just me or did the Porpoise change hit Tranquility after all? The notes said they’d hold back on the Porp changes, there’s nothing in the changelog, but its drone yield is still nerfed by more than 40% - 22 units of moon ore before the change, now only 14. What am I missing?

Anyone else having issues adding skills to the training queue?

Adding mercoxit ore processing doesn’t seem to work on 2 of my alts.
It looks like it’s added but immediately removed.

Training switch nicely balanced.

Solo Orca mining Belts is going to take more piloting skills/awareness (not a complaint).

Nice that the belts are more 3D/challenging but definitely makes an ORCA gank bait. Going to miss just driving around the horseshoes but appreciate the more realistic belt.

Same number of rocks in a belt.

Drone mining animation nice improvement very cool actually.

I don’t see anything about a core in the BP. Wish I would have done a screen print of my ORCA fitting/stats pre-update. 311k ehp seems lower but in tbh I haven’t a clue if it is or not. I’m noticing a Fuel Bay though… not sure what that’s about.

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34.58K out of one Rich Plagioclase roid? Nice!

1.3 million reprocessed for less than 15 minutes mining. I can live with that.

Will have to see how that gank risk figures in but seems good to me!

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What about the Abyssal Ore types?

I had Bezdnacine / Rakovene and Talassonite trained to 5, now they are gone and there is no NPC supply for “Abyssal Ore Processing”?

Lovin the new mining animation!

Just to train all old roid reprocessing skills to IV requires a bit more than 1.6 million SP. Add few of them to level V and it gets past the 1.792 cap mentioned in the devblog.
I can’t know for sure that my character hasn’t been reimbursed with more SP than that amount, but devblog is either lying or one might not get back all the SP if they have some skills trained at level V.

in the patch notes take the figure of all the old skills which is the 13mill figure. and then subtract the total 11mill ish figure from that. The result is the 1,792,000.

They arnt saying you are capped at 1,792,000 refund. They are saying if you max skills before the patch and train all the new skills to max then you have a SP surplus of 1,792,000 which you can invest elsewhere.

They have chosen a weird way to explain it thats all.

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Well explained, thanks!

I think all the moon rocks that were already fracked when the patch hit remained the same. Have to wait to see what new fracks are like.

I find it concerning that none posted yet about mining tooltips being false … I just tried mining mercoxit (Deep Core Strip + T2 TypeA crystal). Fitted it says 2799m / cycle (17.3 m3/s) per harvester, but the actual mined amount is only 1520 m3 per cycle per harvester … it’s not residue it’s simply wrong amount …

If this is the “buff” it actually gives me less then I was getting pre-patch, anyone else having this issue ?

It gives you the actual amount its mining on the Show Info option under attributes. And yeah, it sucks. It was doing it on singularity too, and CCP did nothing about it.

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@CCP_Paragon can you confirm if CCP had intentional changed the Trig resource fields to be so tightly clustered together?

as of patch the fields are just a massive group pile of rocks and they have hitboxes @ 10x the size of the rock models, this makes it extremely hard to maneuverer around and to get to warp when drifter RAT fleets land on grid.

it also appears that the abyssal ore book are only available from trig lp stored, were apparently the three skills related were not fully refunded, don’t see Navigation log books used to buy original skills refunded. As new abyssal book requires same Navigation logs and isk to buy.

Would be nice if you got the skill book back or its equivalent

Amended with updated information.

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Yes, the values are all wrong. If you right click the module in space and show info, the actual values are displayed in the info box.

Navigation in asteroid belts is not working efficiently. Even small ships can’t navigate inside belts. Fyi.

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Some of the roids are to close to the warp in point in the belts.

You are bounce away with 4000ms when warping in with a frigate

Some of the huge veldspar roids are around 200m from the warp in point.

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questions:

What is the duration time for crystals?

Do we still need a crystal for each type of ore?

IF so why is this a thing?
instead of a crystal for each of the categories ?
like Simple Ores, Coherent Ores, Variegated Ores, Complex Ores, Abyssal Ores, Mercoxit?