because you workaround the yield nerf introduced in this upgrade by creating more alts, and once you have enough, you start getting annoyed by having to flip crystals on all of them all the time, and/or your yield collapsing when you forget to flip the crystals, so you now need only one type of crystal for your anom/belt and can therefore multi-account more toons “efficiently”.
Confirming. My toons (all of them) were on lvl4 through the line, and can’t get the skill line back to lvl4 with the reimbursed SP.
ok so there is one type or crystal or more than one? I’m confused.
Before the update it was each type had its own crystal.
There is now one Crystal called Simple Asteroid Mining Crystal that is supposed to work for Plagioclase, Pyroxeres, Scordite, and Veldspar (can’t test it over lack of SP right now as I focused on the null ores and ran out of SP before being able to reach the ore reproc levels I had before) . It’s basically your highsec belt mining crystal, so you don’t need to micro your crystals depending on the rock you’re targetting (or target depending on the script loaded). Likewise, there’s a Variegrated Asteroid Mining Crystal that replaces the Crystals for Crokite, Dark Ochre and Gneiss.
It also helps alot the Crystal’s Information Dialogs are all formated completely different, and none of them links the ore types they work for.
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Now all that needs to happen is CCP remove all the bots of theirs that mine out entire systems.
This doubling of ore is a step in the right direction. The real question is will it slow down the NPC bots from mining systems out?
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For those of you saying we wont speak with our wallet…
As of this moment all 6 of my accounts will be relegated back to Alpha cloan status as soon as the current subscription expires.
I will not waste another dime on this worthless company. And Honestly, I may stop playing all together at some point in the near future.
Well goodbye, if you threatened to leave, then do so.
If you love the game then give constructive feedback and possible suggestions to make it better.
Threatening to leave just shows you’re not an true eve player just a wantabe.
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There is multiple crystals available. But much less than what we had a day ago.
But these are for specific groups of ore, only one ore that has a crystal dedicated to it.
For each crystal group there are three types and each with a T1 and T2 version.
A type crystals are same as the old ones in effect, with an added wastage chance per cycle.
B type crystals have a higher yield and shorter cycle time than A type crystals, also has wastage.
C type crystals have a reduced yield, but it’s wastage change and amount is massive, this has been classed as an PVP crystal.
but cant fullfill its role as B´s get rid of roids faster thx to the broken mechanic.
its not broken. seems to be working as intended.
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having its residue output tied to the reduced miningyield makes it futile. as you´ll get rid of a roid faster by jetcanning it by using B´s than using C´s by a significant amount of time.
Not so.
A type has a 34% chance of wastage per cycle. The B type has a 40% chance of wastage, but pulls much higher yield in less cycle time.
So depending on your luck the B type could be a massive benefit or worse bonus resource waster after the C type.
There have been some posts showing 8 cycles and only one had a failed roll, so out of 8 cycles the bonus ore lost 419m3, miner still got their 3354m3 of ore. And if they were to mine for longer with the same roll results they would be miles ahead of what he mined for sametime
Yields are higher per cycle than before.
Wastage is 34% or 40% chance of happening depending on crystals you are using.
Or there is a 67% chance that an A type will not cause wastage, and a B type has 60% chance of not causing wastage.
Same thing just worded different
It’s a chance roll, not 100% going to happen every cycle.
Even c type has a 6% chance of not causing Wastage.
after being Life on TQ:
Mercoxit effective mining with Type A II is being nerfed by 20%, there is no option to mine waste free
Bistot & Arkonor are not doubled in NullSec, mining with Type A II effective amount is way less than before, pretty much -30% the random seems to be better than the stats
Only Crokite got buffed…
I dont like these changes, they are not as explained and as expected, they are worse 
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Ice belts not Spawning
Is that a BUG ???
best way to find out is to do a bug report.
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ok i will do that
tk
if these are issues post here Version 19.11 - Known Issues
What happened Exhumers and Barges are back to their old levels. They were buffed yesterday but unbuffed today. As in mining yield.
I’ve been playing since beta. When you have played for 20 years like me, you can tell me who is and is not an EvE player at heart. Until then, your opinion on it means absolutely nothing.
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