Concord cops not doing enough, need 911 button

[Dracvlad]

@hellokittyonline

Thiiiiis. Everyone forgets we lost half our player-base in 2016 TO PVP NERFS.

Proof needed.

[Mkikaden_Tiragen]

Hi OP. As another player who mines, I have some information and advice for you to help you enjoy EVE.

1. All of EVE is a PvP space - high sec included. ‘Security’ in this context refers to ‘level of response by NPCs to actions taken by players’. It does not refer to an absolute state of inviolability where no-one and nothing can attack you. The only time your ship is truly SAFE in EVE is when it is docked at an NPC station.

• Recommended reading:
  • Crimewatch Mechanics articles from EVE’s Support site - especially the articles titled CONCORD and Kill Rights.
  • Suicide Ganking article on EVE University

2. Because all of EVE is a PvP space, it is up to the individual player to defend themselves at all times. Thinking defensively is relatively straightforward, but can be hard to build as habits. A few common items to keep in mind when planning your mining efforts:

• Am I in a high traffic area, such as near Jita? - the more populated an area, the more potential targets there are for a gank squad, so they are also higher risk areas. Consider a lower traffic area for your mining.
• Am I paying attention to my free intel tools? - Because most gankers are career gankers, their gank characters will be in the Outlaw state and show in the Local chat channel with the Outlaw symbol. By watching the Local channel’s occupant list, you can usually see a gank group enter the system before they are able to warp to you, as they appear in chat before they finish loading through the gate/undock sequence. When you see Local spike with outlaws, start warping out immediately - chances are you will get away before they can land on you.
  • What if the gankers aren’t outlaws? This is where the directional scanner (D-Scan) comes into play. You can see pilots approaching on D-Scan up for 14 AU away, giving you enough warning to get out if a group of unknown players is descending on you. And if you are at a non-beacon location (something that has to be scanned down), you can see combat probes and know you are being hunted. Again: as soon as you notice this behavior, start warping out!
  • There are more tricks out there - check out flying aligned, for example, as a way to increase escape odds even further.
• Am I making myself an unattractive target? - Flying a ship with expensive modules, or moving goods in a ship with little EHP, are both ways to attract attention. While fitting for tank is not a guarantee that you will not be attacked, it does reduce the gank groups that will consider you worth attacking - either due to increased cost to gank, or need for more pilots than they can field.

I hope these tips help you enjoy your adventures in EVE!

[Renly_Rohan]

@Merin_Ryskin

how they got baited into an illegal act of aggression and now their character is permanently stripped of CONCORD protection.

Not what I said.

@Merin_Ryskin

Utter nonsense. Highsec is far safer than any other place in EVE

Not counter to what I said.

@Merin_Ryskin

Utter nonsense. Smart and capable players are involved in these things,

Not counter to what I said. Smart and capable people are misled every single day in large numbers. Finding clever lies takes time for anybody.

@Merin_Ryskin

And this is why you fail at EVE.

I am worth about ten billion ISK and have a killboard full of the types of kills I want to have there.

You can measure success at EVE however you like. Its nothing on me. Get over yourself.

[Adunh_Slavy]

@Merin_Ryskin

… and they understand how destruction creates demand. …

Well … kinda. Eve’s economy has some bits of classic economics flipped on their head.

Human nature creates demand, unlimited demand. Destruction of stuff in Eve increases scarcity.

[Mr_Epeen]

@Merin_Ryskin

EVE’s dumbest players continue to find ways to lose ships

EVE’s dumbest players gravitate to suicide ganking. They’re supposed to lose ships.

Mr Epeen

[Merin_Ryskin]

@Renly_Rohan

Not counter to what I said.

It absolutely is. You are whining and crying about how “high security” is a misleading term, which means the fact that highsec is the safest place in EVE is entirely relevant to the question of whether or not “high security” is an accurate label.

I am worth about ten billion ISK

I have much sympathy for your life of poverty. Perhaps if you got over your absurd moral issues and sold blasters to suicide gankers you wouldn’t be so poor.

[Renly_Rohan]

@hellokittyonline

And shilling white knights like @Githany_Red and @Renly_Rohan do more harm to this game than anyone.

Yeah. Just give us a couple more days. EVE is as good as dead.

[Renly_Rohan]

@Merin_Ryskin

You are whining and crying

You are.

@Merin_Ryskin

about how “high security” is a misleading term,

It is.

@Merin_Ryskin

which means the fact that highsec is the safest place in EVE is entirely relevant to the question of whether or not “high security” is an accurate label.

Yeah. But its still not counter to what I said. “Relevant” is not equal to “counter”.

@Merin_Ryskin

I have much sympathy for your life of poverty.

I am not even playing for money. I have enough to do as I please. I am not you. I do not want to be you. So I do not play as you do. Nor do I want to.

And I feel sure that sympathy is not an emotion you are capable of feeling.

[Merin_Ryskin]

@Renly_Rohan

It is.

Only if you ignore the fact that high security space is in fact the safest place in EVE, and has an overall very high level of safety.

Excuses for why I am poor.

Ok, whatever you say. I’m glad you’ve made peace with your poverty. This is a much healthier state of mind than your attempt to brag about your pitiful amount of ISK.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@Renly_Rohan

I am worth about ten billion ISK and have a killboard full of the types of kills I want to have there.

Over what period of time?

Also, is it really a “kill” if the target was going to die two seconds later anyway?

[Renly_Rohan]

@Destiny_Corrupted

Over what period of time?

Damn. Do you actually care? I don’t.

@Destiny_Corrupted

Also, is it really a “kill” if the target was going to die two seconds later anyway?

PIcky picky. I have made plenty of ganks fail and also made gankers lose ships for scramming them. I am happy with my record. If you aren’t, tissues are cheap.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

If you’re going to get defensive when someone asks you to break down your stats, then why brag in the first place? Kinda weird thing to do.

[Renly_Rohan]

@Merin_Ryskin

Only if you ignore the fact that high security space is in fact the safest place in EVE, and has an overall very high level of safety.

High is not equal to “higher” than someplace else. Thus why one word has an “er” and the other doesn’t.

@Merin_Ryskin

your attempt to brag about your pitiful amount of ISK.

I just told you what I was worth. I didn’t brag.

Take a breath Karen.

[Renly_Rohan]

@Destiny_Corrupted

If you’re going to get defensive when someone asks you to break down your stats

You didn’t ask for such a thing. I just replied flatly.

@Destiny_Corrupted

then why brag in the first place?

I just laid down the facts. Never bragged about anything.

If you saw bragging maybe your jealousy took over for a minute. IDK. Get a grip or something.

[Merin_Ryskin]

@Renly_Rohan

High is not equal to “higher” than someplace else. Thus why one word has an “er” and the other doesn’t.

Nice job ignoring the other half of it. Let me highlight it for you so maybe you can attempt to understand:

Only if you ignore the fact that high security space is in fact the safest place in EVE, and has an overall very high level of safety.

The fact that some of EVE’s dumbest players lose ships no matter how much safety CCP gives them does not change the fact that “high security” is a very accurate description of highsec.

I didn’t brag.

Just like you didn’t accuse gankers of being sociopaths, and just like not all Renly Rohans are guilty of robbery and murder.

#JusticeForRenlys

[Neo_Bladedrifter]

So My stats sucks because I don’t shoot pve fitted ship or mining ship. hope ccp will make up thier mind already on what 1v1 proving grounds will they retain.

[Renly_Rohan]

@Merin_Ryskin

Only if you ignore the fact that high security space is in fact the safest place in EVE, and has an overall very high level of safety.

You are comparing one place in EVE to another to arrive at your conclusion. Its clear to anyone. You can delude yourself about what happened, but you can’t delude us here reading. Sorry.

@Merin_Ryskin

ust like you didn’t accuse gankers of being sociopaths,

SOME. You cannot even hang on to four letters. So…

@Merin_Ryskin

The fact that some of EVE’s dumbest players lose ships

Ironic you accuse others of being dumb.

When are you are going to get over whatever it is you can’t get over and stop taking raging at everything I say and dragging other threads around all day?

BTW

BOO!

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@Renly_Rohan

SOME. You cannot even hang on to four letters. So…

Are some carebears also sociopaths?

[Renly_Rohan]

@Destiny_Corrupted

Are some carebears also sociopaths?

I imagine so. I cannot see them managing the role play very long though.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@Renly_Rohan

I imagine so. I cannot see them managing the role play very long though.

So then wouldn’t it be better to say “some EVE players are sociopaths”?

And if so, why even bother bringing it up?