(COSMOS)Persistent Multi-Account Camping and Disruption at Contested Guristas Outrider Post (Otomainen)

In previous versions of the game, the Otomainen system had no stations or deployable structures such as Mobile Tractor Units, and the mechanics in place at that time were reasonable and fair.
After the update that permitted the deployment of structures and Mobile Tractor Units, the situation has changed significantly. One player, operating nearly 10 alternate accounts, has been camping the Contested Guristas Outrider Post almost 24 hours a day for years, systematically preventing other players from obtaining the required mission items.:grimacing:
Access to these missions requires completing a substantial chain of storyline tasks, and Otomainen is a high-security island system with no direct connections to other high-security space, making it particularly difficult for players to engage with this content without interference.
Relevant kill reports and evidence of this ongoing behavior can be reviewed on https://zkillboard.com/.
I fully understand that the player’s motivation is profit, and I do not object to players seeking legitimate rewards. However, EVE Online has always been built on the principle that higher rewards should come with corresponding risks. In high-security space, particularly in this isolated system, meaningful risk is effectively absent, which creates an imbalance that was not present in the original design.
I respectfully ask whether this outcome aligns with the intended vision for the game. I sincerely hope that the development team will consider adjustments to the relevant mechanics to restore a proper balance between risk and reward.
I am aware that many players have encountered the same difficulties in Otomainen, and most have chosen to remain silent and accept the situation. Their silence, however, does not indicate that the current state is fair or correct.

Under the current circumstances, I have come to the conclusion that I—and many other players—will never be able to obtain the mission items from the Contested Guristas Outrider Post in Otomainen. This is not an individual problem; it affects a significant portion of the player base, and I sincerely hope that a meaningful solution can be implemented.
The majority of players cannot afford to maintain ten or more paid accounts simultaneously. I believe that players like myself, who operate only two or three accounts, represent the overwhelming majority. We invest considerable time and effort grinding faction standings, only to discover that the critical mission site is under near-constant 24/7 control by a single individual using multiple accounts
I could accept this kind of monopolization in low-security or null-security space, where risk is inherent and counter-play is possible. However, Otomainen is high-security space, and players in my position simply do not have the resources or the number of accounts required to challenge or displace the individual responsible.
I respectfully but firmly ask that CCP actively work toward resolving this issue. I need to know the outcome—whether a solution will be pursued and what it will be—rather than a standard response stating only that the matter will be investigated and appropriate action taken in accordance with the EULA and Terms of Service.
I raise this concern with genuine respect for the game and for the team that has sustained it for so many years. I truly hope for a resolution that restores fair access to this content for the broader community.

The list I’ve compiled so far is as follows:

Known rape IDs - Innkeeper EVE Milk Oats Scary little GreenMan SilentStorm67 Sky Aerial Koiman PlumbusX 10 Potatoes

24/7 bots and cheaters - Gaoz Exploration ANIMAL30 Futeria Mr Jawa Pulyx Koiman Pizdela Elvira Starone Futela Teleio

Some accounts seem to work like factory workers, rotating shifts, just to prevent other players from obtaining quest items, such as MYRKAI’s Data chip, which costs 2B in a contract.

Gaozina was on duty when I posted this.

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Git Gud.

Welcome to sandbox gaming, cupcake. Adapt or move on.

No one’s breaking any rules here, but your equating being ganked in a video game to a heinous real life crime is raising many red flags.

You know this is a game, right?

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Obvious accounts immediately jumping in to derail the thread with absurd claims and ragebaiting.

Legit OP request, CCP should look into this.

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News flash, ye who is bad at Eve, if you have the ability and drive to prevent anyone from running content, this game allows you to do that.

Nothing is stopping you from waging an in-game campaign against that person. Well, other than the fact that no one cares about someone monopolizing your niche content that hardly anyone else has ever bothered to run in a game that allows you to monopolize content. I simply point to the 10/10 DED Complexes as examples.

Outside of that, OP has not provided any proof or evidence to support their claims that there’s a problem here. They’ve provided a list of random names of people who get to the content before they do, assume everything beyond that, and associates people playing a game to the most reprehensible people on earth simply because OP can’t run one specific bit of content in a video game.

Congrats on being part of the problem if you think I’m making absurd claims and ragebaiting after that. Do let me know if this is the case, so I can block you. Stupidity that epic is clearly contagious, and I don’t want to catch it.

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I can clearly see your anxiety, and the facts are undeniable: ever since I made my post public, no further Mobile Tractor Units have been deployed. Did the individual responsible suddenly receive divine revelation, or did he simply see my post and decide to stop?
This issue demands immediate and serious attention without any further evasion. If CCP truly values new players and those willing to explore the game’s content, then this long-standing exploitation must be addressed decisively.
Furthermore, the claim that 10/10 DED complexes do not exist in high-security space is utterly absurd—do not make me laugh with such ridiculous statements any longer.
I expect this matter to be treated with the gravity it deserves, and I demand concrete action now, not excuses or dismissive responses.

Teleio was on duty when I posted this.

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I agree 100%… If they’re camping the Cosmos Complex with Mobile Tractor Units and Bot accounts, then they definitely need to be reported…

Mobile Structures shouldn’t be allowed inside Cosmos Complexes, there’s already enough NPC’s, Cosmos Cans and site structures there to cause some lag, definitely don’t need that compounded with Bots and Mobile Structures on auto…

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They went to work. Most people who play this game have lives and jobs.

What issue? Again, they’re not breaking any rules. You want them to stop? Grow a pair, wardec them, and make them stop. Suicide gank them till they do something else. Instead, you need someone else to fix your imaginary problem for you.

:roll_eyes:

I never said 10/10s were in highsec, learn to read. I said they were an example of CCP allowing players to monopolize content. But your inability to read fits right in line with your toddleresqe demand that someone else fix your problem.

their MTU shot, not CCP to fix the problem for you. You do know you only get a suspect flag for shooting MTUs, right? Concord doesn’t care.

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You are very nervous and panicked.:rofl:

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Never said anything about Concord or gameplay action, also if you’re going to quote me, then post the entire sentence…

If that issue is happening 24/7, then it’s a good bet it’s bot activity and CCP should definitely check it out…

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The individual does not continuously camp the site using a single account fitted with a Rattlesnake. Instead, he rotates among multiple accounts to create the false impression of different players or legitimate activity. There is no value in attempting to reason with him—the person clearly has issues.

Gaozina was on duty when I posted this.

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I have now switched to a Rattlesnake myself and am monitoring the site alongside him. Whenever one of his accounts detects my presence, he immediately swaps from heavy drones to sentry drones. When he operates multiple Rattlesnakes simultaneously, he switches back to heavy drones.
Anyone who truly wants to understand the situation in Otomainen need only spend a few days there personally—especially the critical minutes immediately following server downtime—and the full extent of the issue will become unmistakably clear.

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This site refreshes NPC rats 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, effectively functioning as a permanently profitable anomaly in high-security space.

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That sums up this thread very well.

You’re stalking people because you imagine they’re doing something wrong, with absolutely zero proof outside your own conspiracy theory.

Get some therapy, dude. If only you put half the effort into running content that you do into being a creepy troll.

Clearly you need to work on your reading comprehension.

If they’re camping a site with MTUs and multiple accounts, you shoot the MTUs. If they’re a bot, the program won’t do anything and their farming hits a snag. If they’re actively playing, they’ll either shoot back and you know they’re there, or they don’t and their farming hits a snag. Concord won’t intervene, and either way you’ve had content. Shoot enough MTUs and they’ll find other content to run. This entire scenario is completely solvable with gameplay action.

This isn’t a difficult concept to comprehend if you have the most basic of reasoning ability.

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Gawd, you’re dense as lead… Truly a broken record… I’m not talking about gameplay action so please stop posting your blithering BS replies to me…

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mentioning the chip reminded me of a streamer on CCP’s guest stream last week or so…

The action(s) the OP is speaking of is several characters/players not engaging each other but being suspect in these sites…they use a number of bling ships, haulers, logi, and gank ships in various fleet configurations… i was waiting to get the twitch drop at the time…so i had the ability to watch the streamer for at least 2 hrs interacting with this bunch.

No one break rules? ) You’re confusing a game bug with the game mechanic. Obviously, the fact that items are only available for COSMOS missions for an hour after the downtime is a game bug. Its old but still bug.
Yes, you create good and challenging content with ganks and stuff, and it’s possible to engage with it, but only if I have at least a couple of accounts and few billions isk on hand and only for an hour. Correction - I could have done this, as long as you didn’t start warping directly to objects in deadspace.
So, yes, copy of my bio in the first post is true, you’re a ganker and bug abuser. Looks like a bot farming there for many years and cheater occasionally. I’ve caught you on inaccessible objects by scanning a specific pocket with a narrow beam of a directional scanner. As for the nicknames associated with bots and cheaters, they do it whenever they want and one of them every day want to warp directly to 4th pocket in Otomainen and second every day warping directly to structure in COSMOS site in Airmia. At least one of them is in the Otomainen local chat 24/7 and there could been much more 24/7 rattles and other ships but i spend 20 minutes every day for killing structures to prevent NPS respawn.

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No, it’s not. CCP changed the game many, many years ago so these one off sites don’t spawn their keys every single time you kill the rat that drops it. There’s a lovely 10/10 I used to farm, where you can farm Caldari Navy tags, that does the exact same thing.

As for the rest of this post, it’s just the idiotic rambling of someone who lost their argument.

What the fuq are you talking about here, troll? This sentence is a prime example of you not having any clue at all what you’re crying about.

You’ve been caught on a variety of things and now you insult people because you got no arguments left. It is so obvious for everyone.

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My Chinese friend from FRT once told me that—regarding the COSMOS site, specifically the Persistent Multi-Account Camping and Disruption at Contested Guristas Outrider Post (Otomainen)—whenever the Mobile Tractor Unit was attacked, it would be scooped back into the cargo hold in just one second. He was unable to determine whether this was the work of a bot. This observation dates back to 2019.

Gaozina was on duty when I posted this.