CSM15 ONLY: What is your position on AFK Cloaking?

@Mike_Azariah

AFK Cloaking is the counter to perfect safety through local.
Baiting, which is ultimately a sign that you can defend your system, is the counter to AFK Cloaking.

When you can’t form a bait-fleet, you can’t form a defense fleet in case of an attack.
When you can’t bait, then you can’t defend the system.
When you can’t defend the system, you’re not entitled to keeping it.
When you can’t defend the system, it raises the question how you got it in the first place.
When you paid for that system, then you don’t deserve it at all.

There’s a history of way over ten thousand posts,
which effectively establishes that there is no problem with afk cloaking.

The problem is with those who benefit the most of its alteration, or removal. Any alteration to afk cloaking ultimately turns it into something where the “owner” of the system is being aware of the afk cloakers’ presence, completely voiding the point of afk cloaking.

Looking at the afk cloaky thread(s) and the people who post in there reveals a lot about the people who are arguing against it. Some feel entitled to owning a system (they’ve paid for), some will flat out tell you that the afk cloaker prevents them from undocking. Some will keep moving the goalposts over and over and over and some will directly lie into your face making up ■■■■■■■■ that’s no where near actual reality.

Often enough they attempt to portrait themselves as victims, too. None of them - and I really mean not one of them in thousands of posts - ever genuinely accepts the responsibilities of owning a system, indicating that most of them have never been in the position of actually claiming a system by themselves, indicating that they never were able to defend it anyway. They wrongly believe that the ISK they’re spending entitled them to keeping it.

The nonsensicality of their behaviour becomes extremely apparent when considering that they, who apparently can not play the game due to the afk cloaker, keep “playing” anyway. In form of whining on the forums or complaining in local, from the safety of the station.

Especially those who say that they not enjoy doing anything else are lacking any and all credibility, due to the fact that someone who can not play a game seeks out a different game, instead of complaining about how he can not play the game for weeks, even months, as evidenced by the thread.

AFK Cloaking is the counter to intel from local enabling perfect safety.
Baiting is the counter to AFK cloaking. When he bites, he and his fleet dies.

When you can’t form a baiting fleet,
then you ultimately can not ever truly defend your system in case of an attack,
which means you’re not entitled to having it.

Paying for it does not entitle to keeping or using it.

This thread is ridiculous.
All those who have the biggest issues with afk cloaking …
are exactly those who are disturbed in their botting/afk ratting/mining!

Everyone else, for some magical reason, can deal with an afk cloaker.

We never see this level of artificial outrage and issue-inflation about afk ratting or afk mining.
And why?
Because it’s bears and farmers who create the artificial outrage and issue-inflation in the first place.

Of course they only complain about “afk” things when they works against them.
As soon as “afk” benefits them, they will defend it to the best of their abilities.
They always do and always did.

What we see is that farmers, bears, and potential botters/RMTers, for years,
keep trying to create the illusion of a problem which only affects them and their income.

When you support a change of afk cloaking …
… which will ultimately always allow the target to tell if the cloaker is afk or not …
… then you directly or indirectly support afk ratters, afk miners, botters and RMTers.

They’re the ones who benefit the most of any change to it …
… thus they’re the ones crying the most about it.

There is no problem with afk cloaking.
There is a problem with feeling entitled to owning a system.

People are falling for years of assholes slowly creating the illusion of an issue.

@Archer_en_Tilavine

You owe me 173 PLEX … mate. Consider it a friendly gesture from your side, compensating me for the time spent writing this, as apology for your behaviour (you do not get to set the rules of conversations) and because it’ll help me sub this account, because engaging and killing people as an Alpha -10 is only half the fun.

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