[DAEV4] Thebeka III Freeport Aid Stations

(Mizhara Del'thul) #81

Are any of you seriously suggesting that Samira Kernher can’t be trusted with refugees from her own damned homeworld?

(Gaven Lok'ri) #82

Yes. We are suggesting that.

(Mizhara Del'thul) #83

Exactly how far do you have to go in your ridiculous quest to demonize the woman? Did you never know her at all?

(Che Biko) #84

Well, it matters little at this point, but I’ve worked on a little report, so I’ll report something.

No proof was found of Angel Cartel or other criminal stuff being orchestrated. Computer systems and comm traffic: nothing suspicious. Procedures are good, staff well trained for their jobs. Manifests are ok. Documentation on the medical facilities is recent and accurate. Medical equipment is abundant and in order. Zaibatsu personnel were noticeably weary of my drones, but I have no reason to doubt their reports as presented.

While I was there, I took the liberty of simulating the Aid Stations’ procedures against Deathglow attacks, nanite attacks and some other biological attacks/outbreaks, and while the procedures in place seemed sufficient to limit the effect of such attacks/outbreaks, I did find a few points where improvements could be made.

(Gaven Lok'ri) #85

Demonize? Hardly. We respect that she is fully committed to her heretical cause and will almost certainly use refugee populations as a manpower source for creating new radical heretics.

(Samira Kernher) #86

Actually, I intend to return non-combatants to Amarrian authorities, and will return soldiers likewise once the current conflicts are over (but not before then, obviously. But they will be treated with dignity as prisoners of war). The only ones I intend to “keep”, as it were, are those who do not wish to return.

(Melisma Ramijozana) #87

I think you’re leaning much too heavily into this “Sebestior” angle.

We are the most populous tribe, so if you’re dealing with Matari there is a significant likelihood that the person is of Sebestior descent.

But hey, we’re all the same, so we must all know each other, right?

(Gaven Lok'ri) #88

The fact that you intend to keep any at all is
kind of my point. I never doubted that you would only keep the willing, though.

But you will have desperate people entirely beholden to you for food and shelter, and I am to expect that you won’t actively try to convert them to your heresy so that they do choose to follow you? That seems highly implausible to me.

(Mizhara Del'thul) #89

I think you may find that zealous conversion is a trait you may not share so much with your enemies as you think.
I also think you may find that her “Heresy” will prove a damn sight closer to your faith than most of your “allies.”

(Kalaratiri) #90

Thank you for your report Pilot Biko; I am delighted to hear my stated intentions corroborated by an independent capsuleer such as yourself.

It’s only the timing that is unfortunate.

That, and I doubt anything would have done much to sway the attackers from their initial chosen course.

(Mizhara Del'thul) #91

I’m afraid it still doesn’t ‘corroborate intent’. It says your structure is a perfectly normally staffed and operated structure. It does not say anything about what happens if you have ill intent, and it also doesn’t show any safeguards or stopgaps that could prevent you from utilizing the structure to their fullest extent in the pursuit of said potential ill intent.

The issue isn’t the hardware. It’s the wetware. It says “owned by Angel Cartel”, and that means the odds aren’t exactly in favor of humanitarian aid.

(Kalaratiri) #92

Once again, no it doesn’t.

It says “Owned by Kalaratiri”.

(Mizhara Del'thul) #93

Who is loyal to the Angel Cartel. You’ve made your choice, knowing exactly who and what they are and what they do. I don’t see why it’s unreasonable to expect you to own that.

(Evi Polevhia) #94

Dear Pilot Ramijozana.


(Kalaratiri) #95

I don’t know why you’re struggling with the concept of independent action quite so badly.

When Electus Matari deployed their citadel, did anybody accuse The Minmatar Republic of anchoring a structure in Amarr sovereignty?

What about Armast’s Raitaru in Kahah, did people believe The Ammatar Mandate was moving in?

It really confuses me as to why you seem so determined to paint me as The Angel Cartel.

(Melisma Ramijozana) #96

Meh, I’m fairly certain you’re the one who missed the point.

(Samira Kernher) #97

The thought hadn’t even crossed my mind before you brought it up.

(Mizhara Del'thul) #98

Do you really think Electus Matari is operating against the values, philosophies and desires of the Republic? If you’re a loyalist to a faction, its hardly unreasonable to expect you to if not conform to, at the absolute very least condone the values, practices and ways of what you are loyal to. It is pretty implied in the “loyal” part.

You aren’t the Angel Cartel, but you are Cartel, and thus you are treated as such.

How exactly are you expecting people to treat you? Like you’re not an Angel loyalist?

(Samira Kernher) #99

No. But Minmatar Republic supporters definitely did. And indeed, that sometimes is shortened to ‘Republic capsuleers’.

Whether they are official representatives or not is irrelevant. Being a faction supporter, a faction loyalist, is quite enough on its own.

(Kalaratiri) #100

I certainly admit to being loyal to the Cartel. I have been for quite a few years now.

This does not turn me into a mindless automaton incapable of performing any action that doesn’t toe the party line. It does not mean every action I perform has direct benefit to the Cartel. It does not mean I am followed by Cartel agents looking to make trouble everywhere I go.

I honestly doubt I even register to the Cartel as an entity. I have my chosen superior, but even they let me choose my actions independently 99% of the time.

I am perfectly willing to be seen as a Cartel loyal, independent, Capsuleer. A lot of the time, my actions will align with the interests of the Cartel. Sometimes, they won’t.

Do not conflate my actions with the wishes of the Cartel itself. That’s all I’m asking.