I don’t have ‘Download Full Client’ checked in the Launcher on my HP Desktop running Windows 11 which is getting those mini downloads almost daily…
Obviously everybody has different computer systems which might explain why everybody has different experiences with it…
Here’s an old thread from July 2024 about it:
Only the 8.9 MB game patch yesterday are officially documented. The 200 MB patch prior to that are not. Both patches should be in the patch notes because that is what patch notes are meant for.
Only the 8.9 MB game patch yesterday are officially documented.
Wrong.
The launcher updates are documented in the launcher changelog, right in the launcher.
That aside, your expectations of how patch notes “should” work don’t really comport with reality. There are plenty of valid reasons for not publishing customer-facing notes for every last change. Some updates are likely pre-staging for future updates that aren’t live yet. Many simply don’t warrant a note - they’re not going to tell you about it every time they refactor something with no user-facing changes.
Reading comprehension. These are not Launcher updates. The 200 MB undocumented patches are game client updates. Launcher patches are not downloaded like game updates and are not visible in the download line at the bottom of the launcher.
Every patchnotes that I have seen so far in my life list even small changes because they are the reference to figure out what’s going on with the software you use and if something goes wrong. CCP is so far the only company that patches stuff undocumented in such a regular and recurring fashion.
Actually, only a few of the Launcher updates are documented in the changelog…
Back in July and August of 2024, I recorded all Launcher activity for each day during that time period…
During those 2 months, there was a total of 24 days of downloads and the changelog only contained documentation for 4 of those downloads…
i can’t find the comment, but ccp, i think swift has stated that not every patch will have notes.
CCP are actually unusually good at documenting patches. With most companies we are lucky to get ”improves stability” in the patch notes, CCP regularly documents even small changes in the translated descriptions in the Chinese client.
Even if you had an online game running on multiple server shards, shunting users to different shards to perform routine server maintenance, then you still must shutdown to update all the client software on the player’s PC. The model CCP chose is rapid maintenance with multiple updates per week. The alternative is longer maintenance with fewer weekly updates.
Regardless of the chosen model, all servers do update files while you are interacting. Most of the time the only files sent and received are compressed informational packets. If there is a missing texture for example, then it can be downloaded on the go as needed.
Even when a player is sitting in dock reading their mail, the server looks in to see what you are doing and updates the changes. It is just how things work.
As to the content of updates, I would not think there is any concern of a hidden agenda. There are far too many players on these games who are code monkeys, that would quick detect and report shenanigans on Reddit and YouTube.
Fly safe o7
I rarely --if ever-- get updates for EVE client outside DT patch. Launcher, yes, client no.
This is just a delusional belief of the you-don’t-know-what-you-don’t-know variety.
If the build number didn’t change then no, it isn’t, but you’re wrong about which update is which, I bet.
Eta: Yep, you’re wrong again. The 200mb update is build #3183544, which you keep attributing to an 8MB DL because you don’t actually know what you’re talking about but aren’t going to let that get in the way of being a relentless malcontent.
The 8MB file is just a prefetch file. Both files are part of the same build, not individual updates. Once again, you keep assuming that every individual file the launcher downloads constitutes a separate update to the game client and that isn’t actually the case.
2026-01-29 11:07:19.007 app info: [server-manager] Previous tranquility build: 3182286, current build: 3183544
2026-01-29 11:07:19.021 app info: [quasar-elg-events] Queueing event eve_launcher.electron.eve_client.GameClientUpdateStarted
2026-01-29 11:07:19.023 app info: [server-manager] Starting download of build 3183544 for tranquility.
2026-01-29 11:07:19.388 app info: [manifest] Excluded 42 files from the manifest, leaving 184 entries
2026-01-29 11:07:19.389 app info: [server-manager] Downloading 184 binary files (212 MB)
2026-01-29 11:07:19.390 app info: [download-from-manifest] Preparing to download 184 files { cdn: 1, concurrent: 10 }
2026-01-29 11:07:19.708 app info: [quasar-elg-events] Event sent ``type.evetech.net/eve_launcher.electron.eve_client.GameClientUpdateStarted
2026-01-29 11:07:20.511 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 12.92 MiB/201.98 MiB at 7.96 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:21.523 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 31.98 MiB/201.98 MiB at 19.17 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:22.524 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 50.53 MiB/201.98 MiB at 27.89 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:23.528 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 67.16 MiB/201.98 MiB at 19.48 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:24.532 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 81.71 MiB/201.98 MiB at 19.52 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:25.537 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 100.19 MiB/201.98 MiB at 27.63 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:26.544 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 119.15 MiB/201.98 MiB at 9.08 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:27.548 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 137.51 MiB/201.98 MiB at 18.97 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:28.548 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 155.99 MiB/201.98 MiB at 18.50 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:29.548 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 171.78 MiB/201.98 MiB at 16.94 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:30.550 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 188.05 MiB/201.98 MiB at 24.30 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:31.474 app info: [download-from-manifest] Downloaded 184 files (200.03 MiB) in 12.83 seconds
2026-01-29 11:07:31.474 app info: [download-from-manifest] Average download speed: 16.55 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:31.532 app info: [quasar-elg-events] Queueing event eve_launcher.electron.eve_client.CopyingFilesStarted
2026-01-29 11:07:31.533 app info: [binary-copier] Copying 226 files (408 MB) to ‘C:\EVE\SharedCache\tq’
2026-01-29 11:07:31.534 app info: [quasar-elg-events] Event sent ``type.evetech.net/eve_launcher.electron.eve_client.CopyingFilesStarted
2026-01-29 11:07:31.558 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 201.98 MiB/201.98 MiB at 9.22 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:31.693 app info: [binary-copier] Removing old binaries
2026-01-29 11:07:31.717 app info: [binary-copier] Copying binaries from ResFiles
2026-01-29 11:07:31.859 app info: [binary-copier] Finished copying 226 files to ‘C:\EVE\SharedCache\tq’ in 0.329 seconds
2026-01-29 11:07:31.860 app info: [quasar-elg-events] Queueing event eve_launcher.electron.eve_client.CopyingFilesFinished
2026-01-29 11:07:31.861 app info: [quasar-elg-events] Event sent ``type.evetech.net/eve_launcher.electron.eve_client.CopyingFilesFinished
2026-01-29 11:07:31.863 app info: [server-manager] No prerequisites found for product eve-online
2026-01-29 11:07:32.726 app info: [server-manager] Copying executables 226/226
2026-01-29 11:07:33.626 app info: [manifest] Excluded 52022 files from the manifest, leaving 1 entries
2026-01-29 11:07:33.626 app info: [server-manager] Downloading 1 prefetch files (8.8 MB)
2026-01-29 11:07:33.627 app info: [download-from-manifest] Preparing to download 1 files { cdn: 2, concurrent: 10 }
2026-01-29 11:07:33.750 app info: [server-manager] Copying executables 226/226
2026-01-29 11:07:34.358 app info: [download-from-manifest] Downloaded 1 files (7.60 MiB) in 0.731 seconds
2026-01-29 11:07:34.358 app info: [download-from-manifest] Average download speed: 10.39 MiB/s
2026-01-29 11:07:34.660 app info: [manifest] Excluded 3198 files from the manifest, leaving 0 entries
2026-01-29 11:07:34.660 app info: [server-manager] Downloading 0 prefetch files (0 B)
2026-01-29 11:07:34.661 app warn: [download-from-manifest] The manifest contained no entries to download { cdn: 2 }
2026-01-29 11:07:34.661 app info: [download-from-manifest] Downloaded 0 files (0.00 B) in Unknown time
2026-01-29 11:07:34.661 app info: [download-from-manifest] Average download speed: 0.00 B/s
2026-01-29 11:07:34.893 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 0.00 B/0.00 B at 0.00 B/s
2026-01-29 11:07:35.282 app info: [manifest] Excluded 118283 files from the manifest, leaving 0 entries
2026-01-29 11:07:35.283 app info: [server-manager] Downloading 0 prefetch files (0 B)
2026-01-29 11:07:35.283 app warn: [download-from-manifest] The manifest contained no entries to download { cdn: 2 }
2026-01-29 11:07:35.292 app info: [download-from-manifest] Downloaded 0 files (0.00 B) in Unknown time
2026-01-29 11:07:35.292 app info: [download-from-manifest] Average download speed: 0.00 B/s
2026-01-29 11:07:35.294 app info: [quasar-elg-events] Queueing event eve_launcher.electron.eve_client.GameClientUpdateFinished
2026-01-29 11:07:35.295 app info: [server-manager] Downloaded 0.00 B/0.00 B at 0.00 B/s
2026-01-29 11:07:35.296 app info: [server-manager] Ready to play!
2026-01-29 11:07:35.297 app info: [server-manager] Finished refresh cycle for tranquility
2026-01-29 11:07:35.297 app info: [server-manager] Build for tranquility is now 3183544
If you read anything I have ever said about the launcher, I am no fan of the Chromium source code either. They basically used Google Chrome open source for this launcher. Many online games use a simple web browser interface to access the account and start the client. However it doesn’t need to be this complicated. Unless the client needs to be updated, the game client should be able to log you into the game directly. However CCP has apparently made it impossible to log in using only the client software.
Fly safe o7
See? That’s the issue. You don’t know what belongs to which download. But thank you for finally confirming to yourself and others that there are 2 patches by virtue of your list. Let that sink in.
If you look up to 4d ago and 10d ago, I do not think that there are 960 MB or 164 MB prefatch files. I don’t attribute anything in the wrong way, because the launcher and the patch notes do not give any information about what’s going on.
I do not assume that any download is a separate update to the game, that’s what you assume. I only assume that something is being downloaded in 2 patches of which only one is listed in the patchnotes, and I want to know what the other payload is. I’ve never said anything besides that one point.
It is literally just part of the same payload, what part of this is too difficult to wrap your mind around? They’re not separate patches, they’re stages of the same patch. The “patch” isn’t the act of downloading some individual file, it is the update of the client from version X to version >X.
Because it’s highly unusual from virtually any other commercially used update process. No other game, no launcher, no productivity software I use downloads updates like CCP does.
CCP also never explained this shift in the patchin paradigm. It just suddenly started to happen in typical intransparent CCP fashion.
In what way do you imagine it is “highly unusual”? It’s basically just a CI/CD-ish cadence, which is not unusual in 2026 at all.
Lets fix on our semantics and not call them ‘patches’ but bug fixes.
As a software developer, I can confirm this. My projects use the same process.
The real problem lies in local bad cash-grabbing anti-consumer ISPs. No ISP in 2026 should charge based on used bandwidth. I live in a part of the World that even God forgot about, and we still didn’t have this Internet access payment model for the last 15+ years.
I don’t have any problems with downloads. It’s just a couple of seconds of waiting before starting to play. Nothing to even think about, let alone being bothered by it.
If anyone has a problem with downloads, maybe it’s time to put some pressure on your ISP, or even local legislators to eliminate charging per GB and improve Internet infrastructure. Going to individual services that you are using and blaming them will go nowhere, especially since unlimited download is considered a standard for decades in most even remotely developed parts of the World.
Why do you care so much? I’ve played this game on and off for 20 years. Nobody I know has ever had any problem with the update system, apart from all the people who whine about unexpected downtime and demand free SP.
Who cares about a 200mb update? It takes almost no time at all. What do you think they’re doing to your computer? Have you a reason for being so worried about it?
A guy who played for 20 years should know about boot.ini.
Because the system needs to reserve some space for every download. When the download i done the space is freed up again.