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The way I read the update is that I’ll be losing the bonuses to mining command bursts without the Indy core.
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Ok, so the Orca’s mining stats were nerfed to prevent AFK mining… But now we’re adding compression, but allowing each ship to compress their own ore making the Orca little more than an AFK boosting ship?
And since I mention the nerf to the Orca’s mining stats, they were actually nerfed a LOT more than the reduction is stats would lead you to believe, for belt mining, anyway. Since they can’t move while the core is active and the new belts being made into spread out fields instead of the denser crescents they used to be means the Orca mines out the one or two rocks it can get close to, then has to shut down the core to move (sloooowly) to another one or two rocks and repeat… Being an Orca pilot has gotten very tedious and boring.
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When did you last mine? This was fixed weeks ago.
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Maybe CCP forgot to add all the variants to the list of items you can compress?
Yeah possibly or could it be classified as Moon ore? dunno porpoise or Rorqual did not do it.
Why doea the Porp only get Ore and Gas?? It should get all just like the Orca and Rorqual, just seems stupid it only gets 2 and both of the other ships get everything.
of all the complaints, this is the most hilarious I’m afraid, it’s what every miner has always had to do anyway. Either you have 4 different barges or you have to check your fit before you hit the ice b OH BUGGER warp drive active
Yea I mean come on, worst case carry a damn mobile depot jeez, not like your cramped for space
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Also can we please get a bigger fleet hangar on the porpoise, I mean come on 5,000 m3 and bothe orca and rorqual get 40k m3, not asking for that much 15 or 20k would be sufficient
Or could we get maybe 3 different Porpoises that are maybe a little more specialized, like the current Porp(Ore&Gas), then one for Merc&Moon Ore and then one for Ice. Give them Slightly different traits for boosting etc.
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I think the better route would be to do what all of the non-industrial Command Ships do: The T1 (Battlecruiser) hull is ok at boosting and doing stuff, but it really shines in the T2 version.
T2 Porpoise variations for each type of harvesting, with T2 resists and improved storage/performance. Recategorize the Porpoise / Noctis / Primae as ‘Industrial Utility Ships’ and make the T2 versions be the ‘Industrial Command Ships’.
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The resistance changes will be part of the battleship double bulkhead update.
Ccp on TIS said the reason for no Porpoise ice compression was ice production was already high.
If i read this correctly they don’t want compressed ice from shattered holes to get on the market and cause price drops due to the higher quantities available. More or less they’re market fixing by not allowing the Porpoise have ice compression.
All in space compression does have drawbacks.
Ship most have active industrial core.
-heavy water fuel cost
-reduced highslots for logi/command/tractor/salvage
-static due to core deployment timers (Porpoise 145 seconds)
Add to that you need multiple compression modules available for each mined resource you might mine.
This is not an issue for orca and Rorqual as they tend to be setup for specific mining fleet operations.
But the Porpoise that flys into unknown systems has to carry everything so it can reconfigure for ore or gas, and if ccp decide to add ice, the ice module too.
So there are many drawbacks for compression in space.
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No you just need to get a better payment for your services.
You increase their mining yields, tank and provide storage.
If you’re getting such low isk/hr you’re not valued by the fleet. Remove yourself from the grid and wait for them to realise how much you add to the mining operation.
Right Battleships and only battleships! Doesn’t do a dang thing for any other ship in the GAME!
Nope, CCP needs to provide a better product for my money. CCP Rat took a very health economy and broke it. CCP Rat charged the way to ruin mining and indy. CCP screwed up the risk vs reward for all high players by inflating the prices of all ship beyond the rewards. Don’t worry the predatory monetization is coming, if CCP Rat follows the pattern he started in DUST 514.
So ya, a better product for my money is what I need.
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there was absolutely nothing remotely healthy about hyperinflation of everything
it would seem stupid to me to give everything to a 115 million isk hull