I know a few players have posted such a claim, but I’ve not seen any official information backing it, and the way drones/the engine works they should be regarded as separate.
That would make sense. Thanks again.
because everything else in eve is like RL right? comon’ man!
but to humor you, yes, as currently in eve, and mentioned prior; you can Def tell where jams are coming from right now. in eve. ty overview and ui feedback additions 
Well done picking on one tiny aspect of my statement out of context, I applaud your ability.
Basically stop getting so hung up on ‘That’s not what Jamming means’. We aren’t Arrendis (Sorry Arrendis but 
You are famous for being pedantic). And the meaning of what that means inside the context of EVE is changing.
I will be happy if the change is successful.
My fear is that the situation is more akin to breaking it, then coming back later trying to fix it.
Please come back and fix it.
meant no grief. just 99% of my points are intended as eve-specific.
anything, plz, to not be lumped in with those ‘other guys’! lol
so everyones using them, whats the issue…?
Defenders already have a chance, the amount of times people in delve have smartbombed my taranis into dust is probably the same amount of times a hauler or frig has cyno’d a titan on top of me…
so you say defenders need a chance and then…
basically you think it should be more dangerous to other people, your next statement confirms this…
So the only current danger as you see it from roaming interceptor gangs is for AFK vni’s and you want to make it safer for these afk ratters by making it harder for others?
@CCP_Falcon
im lost for words as to why … im… literally dont know what to say to that…
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Honestly the reason i dont like sov null is because its too damn safe and boring af; roaming tends to be boring af too already 'cus everyone just docks before you get there; except in places like delve or geminate where they carry on regardless and just form defence fleets or counters… groups in the cfc/imperium will cyno titans, supers and fax’s to defend their rorqs… for a 5 man frigate gang…
fozzie sov is great because it makes people form coherent fleets, nullification change means people will just sit on bottlenecks with bubbles; this makes it easier for large entities to win EVERY sov fight with little to no actual thought process - its already easy for them because they have the numbers to have two or three bs WITH anti tackle escorts sat on gates as well as 200 or 300 in each system anyway…
If you want to see what nullsec is like after these changes just colour all of sov null with a bee…
ECM is chance based and you are just as likely to miss a jam than get one (trust me i know…)
Changing it to the proposed change is… I honestly dont know the thought process behind it tbvh as a solo pvper ecm is annoying af but then so is any ewar; thats just the way it is, and the way it should be as a force multiplier.
HIC change, well as a previous wormholer the hic closing wormholes fit is a nice touch but to be frank it was never meant to be and more often than not if you bounce the wh with the correct amount of shipping you generally dont need one.
HIC going at 8k ms with agility of a ceptor was always silly.
There is nothing, NOTHING, that will make me agree that these changes are needed or wanted; at least not if your a competent player that uses a wide range of ships.
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What about Rook?? ECM is only one effective defense. On ReCon mission many time ECM safe my ship. Now I will be a easy target with weak shield and armor. Ask again, what do you plan to nerf next? I ask because I want to know what avoid to buy.
you can get one hell of a buffer out of a rook… do you mean falcon? if anything it just means the meta of ECM ships will change to having only a 1-2 jams per ship. hopefully CCP will make good on their promise of increasing jams of individual mods but its ccp so…
dont pay attention to him, ecm burst is a stupid idea on a widow hes obviously trolling you.
the hell are you talking about its far more effective then just fitting jams… you really should just bring a falcon at that point it will tank more is cheaper and is just as effective
Widows jump in with other freindly ships and you think an ecm burst is a good idea?
tl:dr jump in ecm burst, target gets away cus friendlies cant tackle…
You sir would be a hoot on blops drops…
its almost like there is no need to burst right away…
drop in fleet moves to 30km while the widow and hunter maintain heavy tackle. once the arazu spread points you can begin bursting. you have a guaranteed jam against any non-seboed t1 ship within 29km as well as several T2 ships. even the ones you don’t you have well over a 60% chance of jamming. the arazu can then scan res damp any nasty ships and keep their locks broken for well over the 20s before your next cycle.
meanwhile your widow is blasting near 1.1kdps since its lows are feed up from tank/ecm and you don’t explode when ppl look at you funny.
only people who fit a widow like a falcon are those who saw it as a new player and thought it would be cool or were taught by the same
also pro tip the burst doesn’t jam the host ship so i’m not sure how your targets are getting away. almost like you don’t understand the mods mechanics
the ECM burst is why the caldari have an E-war BB just like heavy nuets are why amarr have one
lock time
honestly not speaking to you about it, clearly you have an idea of what you would do but lack any real experience so theres no reason to bother with you on this matter.
Only ignorant people demand removal of local, in particular in this day and age where you need to know who is in system in order to not run into a boson titan on the next gate.
the hell do you mean lock time? you have that same issue with it even if there are ECM and i’m pretty sure the rest of the fleet can manage to hold tackle for the 5 or so seconds it takes for you to lock. hell they probably wont be out of range for the first burst by then
Have you ever actually done a blops drop?
I know that. Put burst ECM to Rook = Lost ship. Rook have 30% amplification to each ECM jammer but 0% to burst ECM. Additionally you can activate only one burst at time. In 1v1 skirmish it was a deadly combination or give you chance to escape. Now Rook is useless.
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ecm burst doesnt get bonuses, like i said, its a silly idea