might as well use Insta-warping ECM burst Ceptors if your thinking of fleet use…
The changes to the 500 MN hictors is terrible for wormholers. Some sort of mass reduction is needed to close those crit holes in a safish way!
That mass reduction module must be part of this release too (not in the near future!)
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or drifter changes , only been 2 years since they said theyd look at it.
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Oh, no, I wouldn’t say first-strike tactics shouldn’t be allowed. I was just addressing your point as I saw it. The thing about ‘on to a second or third target’ though… is that you just bring more, and split them up. It really doesn’t change the math at all. If you’re actually attacking the entosisers of a large sov-holder, you have the numbers to make it a credible offensive… or you’re just wasting your time, as they put more entosis ships out there than you have attackers. That’s true even now. A small group doesn’t make a credible assault on Tribute, for example.
Nothing, and vice versa but if players have a limited number of votes they’ll have to choose between categories, prioritising those that matter most to them.
Based on what evidence?
You’ve dismissed the idea of reforming the current system without even considering what changes could be implemented.
well yea, but you just have the candidates who apply for csm have certain responsibilities. if you are afraid they wont do that fairly, then why even have a csm? lol
Whoever is involved in deciding about these changes, please think about the following according to ECM:
For non-combat ships, like Industrials, ECM is in most cases the only vital chance to get rid and escape from any attacker.
These ECM changes will decrease this chance drastically.
I suggest at least to think about an effective jam cycle should make the target loosing his lock and be forced to relock the jammer.
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It’s not like we aren’t high-sec and j-space players, too. Only about half of my alts are in null. That’s not uncommon.
ECM Changes - Hurts asymmetric engagements where the ECM boat was relying on a chance for a jam to level the field, any ECM ship, interesting play styles and edge cases … sod it; It only really makes sense for 1v1s (shouldn’t have taken that fight) and Fleets (where there are usually enough non-jammed ships to deal with it anyway), oh and I suppose the AT.
Nullification - what? No clear counters, really. Oh you mean “easy” counters - uh huh.
500MN Hictors - Feel like you screwed the hole worms on this one for very little gain.
Capitals - Nothing, really? Nothing. OK
And then something about a ship no one flies - Great!
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@Brisc_Rubal not entirely accurate. In a Democracy the mob rules. That’s your majority. I am from the USA where we are a Constitutional Republic so I am used to that. Sadly we are under siege by communism but that’s a different story. The structure of the CSM should be changed to make sure no one group has a majority of representation and no group goes without representation.
Fair representation with limit 2 seats to each region, WH, null, low and HS and give additional seats for hardcore PVP, Miners and one for industrialists. So there could be 10 candidates for null but only 2 possible winners and they couldn’t be from the same corp/alliance or coalition. That would be fair representation.
I hope my explanation clarifies a fair balance to the CSM and the eve player community.
In the meantime, could you please provide me (others reading this) a link to how we players can contact CSM members, and what topics the CSM is covering so we players may contact you with our input. That IS what you are there for yes?
Thank you and fly smart o7
So, if damp ship damps me, should I still have possibility to target the damper? This is what ecm change is.
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The ECM changes seem ~okay~ on the surface when you consider Falcons as the primary source of ECM. But ships like the Widow and Griffin NI were meant to be fighting in solo/small gang at much closer ranges.
IMO these ships got thrown out with the bathwater because they don’t fit the use case of “the ECM boogeyman.”
I don’t see how you can fix these ships after this change. Caldari should just get a completely different, second ewar system that is the “brawl” ewar, versus ECM being the “fleet” ewar. I had the idea of ewar that heats your target’s racks so they can’t overheat without taking massive module damage. Surely there are options out there!
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Corrupt because the people who vote in the CSM elections get represented? I’m not a huge fan of the single transferrable system, myself. I’d prefer ‘you get one vote’. But I also recognize that that’s a good way to get a CSM where half of the members get under 500 votes each year.
There’s an entire forum devoted to the CSM. You can contact me directly at briscrubal@csm.eve.com.
The meeting minutes from the last summit will be released soon - hopefully by the end of the month.
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This, totally. Stomping on miners/haulers again. Awesomely stupid.
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What most people do not understand is that by time the changes are announced, they are already in testing. CCP will not role back a change. Period. They may delay a change, they modify a value, but the change will happen. They may skim this thread to see what people are complaining about. But at the end of the day its a done deal.
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Well, then what you’re getting from the current blog is something it doesn’t say. It doesn’t say they’re definitely putting a nerf in. It doesn’t even say what they nerf they’re considering is.
Don’t go drawing conclusions based on literally no information. ‘I might do a thing involving green’ does not mean I’m going to unveil a completely new kind of broccoli.
It’s time to remove everything from the game what breaks a lock. This would cause more exciting and pure fights. Everyone can shoot back. Period.
The actual ECM change is a desparate, rediculous and illogical workaround what takes away ECM from the smaller group who needs it to counter a bigger group while the bigger group can use it as an additional effect with less or no risk. There is no solution to balance ECM. This mechanic is trapped in a catch22. With the change ECM will become a privileg just for the bigger gang. But the idea of ECM is to counter and fight numbers.
Shooting back at the Falcon only to try to scare it off the field (by drones) temporarily is completely nonsense in most situations because you’ll die the same painful death to the rest with the fact that you can’t lock close range shi*t like before.
The only change in this case is to sacrifice the funny Falcon now to try to save your ass while a bigger group can use the Falcon to kill you the same painful way like before.
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I’m thinking small gang, mostly. ECM-burst fozzieclaws require mass to have any real effectiveness.
Yeah, crunching the math:
The Raptor can be set up for fast aligns and a good 11k ehp.
The Crow is… not as fast to align.
The Crow also carries more guns.
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Why nerf the Raptor?
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