So I added up the number of people who live in the North and are ostensibly allied and whom Goons are currently fighting. I got 38,828 pilots from Dotlan.
I also added up all the ratting and mining value in the regions they live.
To be quite honest, I just do not see why you are so butthurt over Goons in Delve. You’d not be butthurt if they were spread over 5 regions, but because they are in one region you complain incessantly.
truth!^^ but these sorts of logic have no place if you are a csm shitposting all over a feedback thread. they say a thing that is beyond believable. and when you call them on it, they ignore the point entirely, move the goalpost, then accuse You of moving the goalpost and having poor grammar and nitpicking lil details in the verbage rather than concede the point. or they name call, or start making meaningless analogies to RL situations, or bring up some niche scenario as tho its common place with zero empirical evidence to back it up. its all classic debate tactics tbh. and lame for a game thread where we are all just trying to make the game better, not worse.
yess, its called flying your ship. otoh, if someone wants to argue that ecm in its current state doesn’t provide enough room to pilot your way out, which would b a hard argument to make, but for humors sake, fine. a minor adjustment to the optimal range could make a huge difference in the use of ecm. nothing further necessary.
remember ecm bonused hulls are caldari, and caldari generally suck for speed, esp if you spent all your lows on amps.
By the way, I also calculated a measure of ISK value earned to ISK value Destroyed. And guess what in August Delve was not at the top. In fact, Delve was 14th overall.
by default it offers 27.5% max targeting range and Scan Resolution, and a 44% sensor str bonus.
with ECCM script loaded you loose the range and Res bonuses, but gain an 88% sensor str bonus.
with Scan Res Script loaded brings scan Res bonus up to 55%, but no range or sensor str bonus.
Anyone no running this is ether running an Sensor Amp or a RIG to boost the above, or one of two things, don’t think they need them, or is running a Drone-Boat or a Missile-Boat.
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And you’ve made my point about shooting back. If fire and forget missiles are the obvious, easy counter to ECM, why doesn’t everybody use them, thus negating the power of ECM frigates?
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And you’ve just made my point.
Again.
There are counters but people don’t - want - to - use - them.
So instead of tinkering with the mechanics of ECM (i.e. lock range, cycle duration, “chance based” lock mechanic, lock strength, etc) you’ve just decided to nerf it.
Because twist the truth in whatever sentence you write. In that regard, Brisc Rubal is a very good spokesperson for the GSM.
While you added up all the regions for the north, you conveniently forgot Querious in your equation for Delve. That puts your numbers up to 9400B for bounties and 13700B for mining. Everything of that Q generation comes from your 3 constellations, none of it comes from the other residents there.
Furthermore, while it definitely looks like I am only attacking CFC with my arguments, the actual targets are CCP and their stupid incompetence at preventing something like CFC from happening. They deliberately introduced mechanics, which favor n+1 worse than ever before. And they are now on its path to remove elements from EVE that can at least try to counteract that stupid development a little bit.
Now you are lying. Did you add the additional pilots living there? Adding the larger alliances in Querious brings the number of pilots up to just under 44,000. Which on a per pilot basis brings Delve & Querious up to just under 526 million ISK/pilot. So not really that much higher than what we see in the north. BTW, I left out the Initiative in my pilot count as they hold sov in Querious and elsewhere.
Another lie. You are attacking Goons. Again and again and again.
Yet another lie. N+1 is always going to be a thing because N+1 or even N+M is always a good strategy.
Admit it, you are simply a pathological liar.
Gee…maybe you stop calling everyone else a liar too. Liar.
Not a lie. You are simply the only ones using the failure mechanics that CCP provided to the maximum extend so far. And the cluster can clearly not sustain that as failing sever performance clearly indicates.
No, I only look at the numbers on the MER, not how many pilots live there.
Yes, you could also add Fountain to the equation, but then you’d also have to add Period Basis because Russians down there are also closely allied with you. And TEST space. I have no problem with that but it would get complicated.
Not a lie at all. CCP said for the introduction of Citadels they want to work away from N+1 because that was such a bad experience with Dominion sov and the server couldn’t handle it well. And then they went to work and introduced structures which necessitate even more N+1 in actually even more bigger ships, which the server can handle even less. It’s not lying, it’s simply talking about CCP’s coding incompetence.
I plead guilty (by that I mean the pleading fake guilt to satisfy incompetent persecutors commonly seen in the US, just in case I would admit actual guilt for something I don’t do. ) to that when I see all super and titan pilots in EVE deleted from the database. Without a trace and no way to restore them. Until that time I just find amusement in calling out your reality twisting.
You miss the point jackass. People disagreeing with you are not necessarily liars, yet you have been using that term in this thread incessantly. You come off as a real giant asshole.
Also, your pathological dislike for Goons is blinding you to the numbers right in front of you. Are goons doing well? Sure. But so are those guys in the north. One thing that does not show up in the MERs are rental incomes. How much rental income is flowing into PL wallets?
Okay, this really is a lie. Sorry, but it is. The pilots who live in these regions is something we can see off of Dotlan. We can also see the ISK in various regious. When we add them up and divide by the number of pilots is it that different? No.
Now you are grasping. And you also have to add the pilots too. Yet you keep refusing to do this basic arithmetic.
This is just sheer…foolishness.
CCP can say whatever they want, but in watching EVE and the meta game and how players react to CCP’s changes to the game, what CCP wants and what actually happens are typically two very different things. CCP suffers from a problem most people suffer from when they try to control and direct complex adaptive systems…the people in those systems can react back on such changes. So CCP can say they want to do X, but even if they try to do X the problem is the players can also adapt to whatever changes CCP implements. This is why I think it is idiotic for CCP to try and make changes to achieve a particular outcome. It has to do with emergent phenomenon. Emergent phenomenon are defined in the process of their emergence. As such you cannot design anything to get a desired outcome when you are dealing with emergence.
I showed you the numbers in another response. Scroll up or look for the response in another thread where you asked that question, jackass. A hint: I believe it was in the MER topic and It is not nearly as high as the fantasy numbers that you threw up.
That is a lie. The numbers of people living in Q and the values generated in Q have little in common. The vast majority of the income in Q is generated in your 3 constellations. If you add all the people in the other constellations into this equation, you deliberately and falsely lower the average in your favor.
And yet they keep trying, and yet they keep ruining things. Just look at the latest nerfs to combat ceptors which are one of the few threats to massive wealth generation in an area protected by a super and titan umbrella even when the main force is deployed elsewhere. And the GSM supports them in that endeavor.
Thank you, I take that as a much appreciated compliment.
To be fair, I think what she meant was, when people chose an “ewar” type ship to solo in, they usually go for an ECM ship instead of one that say, gives bonuses to target painting or damps or tracking disruption.
I could be wrong though. I have no idea how many people solo (I assume we are talking about PvP) in “ewar” type ships.
Looking just at the ewar frigs, except for the Caldari, each racial ewar frig gets bonuses to 2 types of ewar. Amarr get Nos/Neut and Weapon Disruptor bonuses. Gallente get Warp Scram/Disrupt and Remote Sensor Damp bonuses. Minmatar get Web and Target Painter bonuses.
Caldari just get bonuses to ECM. No wonder they need to be nerfed ! Unstoppable ! Game breakers ! Really good at “frustrating” some players that don’t want to fit anything to counter them with !
Each has their advantages and disadvantages of course. That is the way the game works.
None of them are so “OP” that they are breaking the game and people can fit their ships to counter most of the Ewar (except for the Target Painters).
Again, and again goons tears persuade CCP to make massive game play changes in their favor, despite all other players opinion. Is not very far the moment we will call this game Goons Online
Small ships. Small gang. Welcome to virtual life, there too things are relative. Content creation and consumption particularly.
No, it wasn’t 5 guys going out for a night. But it also wasn’t 4K people in a system. The distinction here isn’t small, medium, large or anything like that.
It is something entirely different. Easy and simple niches of gameplay. Here is EVE, let’s turn it into ST:O.
So I would like to know if you are solo in a ECM ship and you are ECM fit that you can not uses your ECM has no effect against the other ship and that ECM is now only good in a group setting. So your ECM defense is useless? Which seams you made all ECM fit ships like Blackbird and The ROOK useless as a solo ship. In PVP for the most part.
) to that when I see all super and titan pilots in EVE deleted from the database. Without a trace and no way to restore them. Until that time I just find amusement in calling out your reality twisting. 