Dev Blog: October Balance Pass!

[Kenny_Drein]

Just because you’re bad at using the broken mechanic doesn’t mean the mechanic isn’t broken. Your logic is the same as saying “rorquals didn’t need a nerf because I was only using 1 excavator”.

[Lquid_Drisseg]

@Rivr_Luzade

Then there will be more places like delve, and then the problem goes away, right?

Hell no. That makes all the issues even worse.

you cant make this ■■■■ up folks

[Kenrailae]

Yeah… the inty nerf is not about making ratters safe… at all. You keep making it about that though.

[Dominous_Nolen]

Yup, Wormholers are losing a tool that we relay on to be able to lock down out space.

So much for dealing with frigate holes… -shrug-

[Mar5hy]

Maybe this is a late april fools joke?

You have now made it harder for small wormhole groups of 10-50 players. You have made it safer and easier for larger nullsec groups of 1000’ of members. Nullsecs biggest fear. Wormholers rolling into their care bears.

Again you are helping the people that dont need help! Are you eve devs really this ignorant? Can you not see where this is leading?

You have removed the following gameplay:

1. Wormholers being able to roll into juicy nullsec regions such as delve, esoteria, cobalt edge.
2. Niche adrenaline junkie blopsers. e.g 1 widow / sin vs a carrier
3. Interceptor fleets can no longer harass nullsec space
4. NPSI fleets can no longer rage roll to drop on nullsec

Thanks CCP

[Brisc_Rubal]

@Luna_Tzestu

There’s something called tyranny of the majority. That’s what this is. Because goon bloc is massive you get disproportionate representation. You are not 50% of the player base but organize in a way to essentially make your votes count for more. Stop pretending this csm is even remotely representative of the playerbase.

That’s not true. Of the members of the CSM right now, three are Goons and can say that their election was the result of being on the Imperium ballot. That others, like me, are members of the Imperium does not mean we relied solely on the Imperium ballot to get elected. I was the 4th highest vote getter and appeared on the 2nd most ballots. I was elected before many of the Imperium votes trickled down to me.

Sort, Steve, Jin, me, Suitonia, Bee, - plenty of the elected members were elected without relying on the Imperium ballot.

This wasn’t a partisan thing or designed to just benefit one group. And this isn’t all the stuff we talked about or pushed for. There are other things we are continuing to advocate for that will have as big an impact on other areas than these changes did. They just happen to be the first ones presented since the summit.

[Rivr_Luzade]

@Kenny_Drein

Your logic is the same as saying “rorquals didn’t need a nerf because I was only using 1 excavator”.

That’s where you are wrong: Introducing Rorquals at all in this fashion was a huge mistake in the first place.

[zander_exvirus]

So will you be able to ECM the ECM’er back so there is no ECM?

[Lquid_Drisseg]

@Dominous_Nolen

Yup, Once again Wormholers are losing a tool that we relay on to be able to lock down out space.

So much for dealing with frigate holes… -shrug-

I agree it is pretty spooky to have to sit there, completely immobile from fear knowing that at any second someone might try to pvp you.

[Brisc_Rubal]

@Rivr_Luzade

The normal non-capital counters do not require luck. They require a fleet to counter a fleet. Claws and Corms do not require luck, neither do RLML ships on a target that the Claws tackled.

You’re not talking about situations where nullification is the problem.

[rhiload_Feron-drake]

the damavik suffers heavily in all departments, fitting, slot layout and damage to a certain extent. bring a low to a mid does not solve its current issue, making it from a almost useless to a under powered ship, it will now have much worse tank now by dropping a low, or damage which is already anaemic at the start of its cycle, keep the 4 lows and add a mid slot to 3/3/4, like the incursus. i believe this was already talked about @CCP_Rise that this is not a solo ship which i get is fine, but the tank is already pretty bad, its good against cruisers, but without its 4th low, then it will probably die to the cruiser anyway, a hard ship to balance, but i think adding a mid will solve SOME problems it has, (i do think it has bad fitting and i stand by this)

[Rivr_Luzade]

I am talking specifically about countering a Claw fleet. Defensive efforts do not necessarily need to result in tons of kills. They also mean the denial of content for attackers. That’s what counter Claw fleets or Cormorant fleets achieve at the very least if they do not kill the attackers on bait targets.

[Tipa_Riot]

It is, not only for that of course, but in this flat form without addressing specific problems, it is. Even if it wasn’t intended, it is exactly doing that.

[Kenny_Drein]

I am not sure if you could have missed the point more even if you tried

[Lquid_Drisseg]

@Rivr_Luzade

I am talking specifically about countering a Claw fleet.

Maybe you should stop though because apparently no one is gonna fly them anymore?

[Minimax_Zed]

Sort, Steve, Jin, me, Suitonia, Bee, - plenty of the elected members were elected without relying on the Imperium ballot.

Brisc, there are a lot of admirable folks there, for sure.

But there’s no one there who is speaking for W-space, and these patch notes make that painfully clear.

[Sepheir_Sepheron]

Retribution had 1 mid

[Lquid_Drisseg]

@Minimax_Zed

But there’s no one there who is speaking for W-space, and these patch notes make that painfully clear.

something to think about for next year.

[Tam_Balar]

Do you think I can replace those raptors for free ?

[baltec1]

RIP my solo rook.