Ice belts get mined out and have 4h cooldown. For Gallente space there is Gallente Ice Channel chat that keeps track of that and I still don’t see it losing it’s purpose because people will still want to know how far ice belts are from being mined out. There can be like 4 ice systems within 5 jumps, being a cluster of more systems with some of them having up to 3 belts (even if on timers) so player info still matters. Especially if Agency won’t keep track of the timers.
I’d like to add my feedback about the agency exploration changes too.
I liked the version of exploration most where the system scanner (or whatever it’s called) didn’t automatically show the signatures in system. You know, the version where you first had to launch a probe to check if there are any signatures at all. That was extra cool especially for a new explorer because of the feeling you got for finding something that was not immediately apparent and visible to everyone. When all sigs became visible, I went “meh” and became a pirate, using my probes for evil things.
However, I gave the revamped exploration another go after coming back from a lengthy break. The new exploration clearly wasn’t all bad because I noticed that I spent quite a lot of time with it. The good feeling when finding something hidden was gone but at least there was a bit of explory-feeling going on as I went through systems looking for sigs.
Now that the game holds my hand and tells me where to go, I’ll probably mothball my probey ships for some time while I explore other career options instead. Maybe the exploration career should be renamed to signature focusing career or something like that?
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This. Exactly this. Want to mine ore/ice? Scan it down first. Want to run a haven? Scan it down first. Might do some to slow down the super ratting blobs and put downward pressure on PLEX prices. Four and a half billion ISK for 30 days gameplay is just ridiculous.
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CCP, why?
You must realise it will completely brake the economy and bring the joy and mysteriousness out of exploration? So what if the newbros struggle, thats why other people, corps, alliances there to help, or do you want to just get more subs, you greedy scrubs?
I’d like to add too that apart from cosmic anomlies combat sigs should also be not shown. IIRC the same behaviour applied to them as cosmic sigs before Invasion.
I also urge everyone to show ccp that theyre wrong: DONT use the new agency exploration tab! Boycot it! Let’s not ruin what this game stands for!
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Can you absolutely honestly say that in the recent time you explored, you visited every single one system for the whole duration of all your sessions, with anticipation and excitement for possible sigs in it? Every single system for even hours and days? Or was it “meh” or “oh well” as you had to move on after finding no sigs?
For the experienced explorers people claim to be here, they surprisingly don’t mention plenty of sigs they have to ignore during exploring. Worthless drone sites, wormholes when they want DEDs, gas sites, DEDs when they want relic sites. Sigs that still will be there after this change, that will clutter this Agency map. Some of the sigs that majority of people don’t care about or can’t run even if they fly T3C.
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trash
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autopath to relic when?
ah damn, this is not BDO forum
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Aight so everyone’s complaining but no one’s calling for another Jita riot
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Jita Riot was initiated and funded by bigest RMTers ingame and players suck it …
Eve players are mean and naive … 
Logging in and playing the game isn’t a protest.
Don’t subscribe and don’t login. That’s how to send a message.
Alas, I’m too weak. I’ll still be playing.
This is an uncalled change CCP. Nobody has asked for it! Leave exploration AS IS.
you still have time to do the wise thing and not implement this stupiity.
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As a non pve player I think the change will be good. As pvp’r I can see what sites deplete live in constellation and then cloaky camp the closest one to me.
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Are you maybe based in null and hunting frigates that run relic sites? Not every sig and not every 2nd sig is a relic site. Not every sig is relic or ded site only. You will have fun counting unknown signatures on the map. Not always systems that went from 1 sigs to 0 but few minus 1. I’m guessing you will use some sort of writing down of numbers in Eve notepad?
Absolutely do not show cosmic signatures in nullsec.
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So you think players being told there are 7 signatures in a nearby system will just ignore that because “most of those are probably worthless”? When you fly into a system now and find 7 signatures do you just fly out of the system since most of those are probably nothing anyways?
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Exploration will now become bot heaven. They will find sigs faster, scan faster and run sites faster. Real players will be left with low end sites or none at all.
There are already new botting programs out there prepared for this new “exploration” expansion. This is how EvE fights the botting scourge, making it easier day after day.
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The whole point of sigs and anomolies is u go out and find them. This change is utterly dumb. What next? Reduce the client to just “Press M” to make isk. I’m glad I dropped to alpha, not paying for this shite.
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Use this new tool to set up a camp and gank the bots?
No I don’t think that. Did I write that? No I didn’t.
1st of all people think here there will be no systems like that or if there will be then only for short while.
And 2nd most systems will stay exactly as they are now. They won’t be binary with only the juicy site or nothing. Nor 7 or 0. Several various sigs, of course usually way less than 7. As it is now. And most people won’t be able to run them all or will not want to waste their time on something not worth enough.
Frigate explorers will ignore everything that isn’t at least relic or maybe data site.
DED runners will ignore everything that isn’t a combat site and some combat sites too.
Ventures seeking wormholes with gas won’t be able to run anything else. Wormholes stay in space for at least hours too. As sigs.
You’ve got Stratios or T3C? Cool. You still can’t despawn every sig. And you’re of the few not specialized.
Everything will stay the same, with maybe side pockets not staying the same. Pockets who people defend here, so take for granted, even writing about “discovery and uncertainty” in the same post lmao.
And no sig will be named on the Agency map. Have fun with a sea of unknown sigs, with occasional pocket system here and there.
No, I can’t. On the other hand, I never said that in the first place.
For me the interesting part, “the hook”, of exploration is (was) roaming and looking for things. It felt more rewarding when I had to find the signatures first instead of just identifying which ones are worth probing down. As in, getting to the lootz required more effort. Now I might be able to make ISK faster but it probably won’t be as fun anymore.
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