Without convenience motivation can be lost too fast
you can also run combat sites brainafk and have a chat. and still make mor eprofit of it then running missions. just saying 
not to mention they are mostly way easier then l4 missions, and faster to finish some even blitzable easily.
Incursions and ghostsites are too risky for alpha
Actually significantly lower isk/effort/time than L4s
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soo, negative isk/h event and ban of all L4 missions, pearl abyss anyone?
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incurisons arent too risky for alphas find a grp which still runs alpha incursion fleets ( alpha machariels) .
maybe run the correct combat sites then, and do the escalations they prompt. also im pretty sure alphas can run ded1 and ded2 perfetcly fine. even ded3/10 shouldnt be any problem.
and the isk is way more then l4s. except you are truly very unlucky with drops. 
also dont complain as alpha. you play for free. so dont be greedy
And lose that machariel due to logi mistake
Negligible isk/time
Even 4/10 is not a problem with Gnosis
No, significantly less in average
So is it not enough obvious that proposed changes are only addressing this and are nothing to do with botting?
ehm u play eve, u accept possible shiploss on undock.
also incursion grps used to give SRP for shiplosses+insuranceā¦so no big loss at all.
i dunno how u run escalations. but when im on the way to the next stageā¦i run all combats ( worthy ones) i can find on the way there too.
also ded sites have the chance of good loot. while missions is simply bad bounties+salvage+mission rewardā¦which is maybe 20mil /h or a bit more? im not up to date on that matter
edit: and even 20mil ( or more ) per hour is more then enough to keep your alpha toon going.
Iām not understanding your statement. There are bots across the spectrum of alphas and omegas? is that what you mean by a combination of āall these factorsā? I just do not see where an alpha clone having access to a Gila is hurting Eve. If a botter wants to bot they will just do a lower level site if they donāt have access to a Gila. And look at the Q1 economic report and tell me that all that stuff being exported out of Delve is legit. The Rorquals are being piloted by Omega clones. That is the biggest impact to the daily player. The dropping price of the items that a legit player mines or grinds for. I am just saying the clone status doesnāt matter. Bots are going to bot. You (CCP) have access to all of the data, sort it out and put the data under a microscope.
I am an omega, I have been a paid subscriber for quite a few years now and have almost 1 year left on my omega that I have already paid for. I think thee alpha clone thing is what is keeping Eve afloat right now. I am just airing caution when messing with these guys. I love this game, however I have in the past put this game on a shelf and lived my life without it completely for years at a time and not given it a second thought. I recently stopped playing for about 2 months because āRed Dead Redemption 2ā was WAY more entertaining than Eve. When I sit at a gate and try to report the bots as fast as I can but cannot keep up as a capsuleer because there are so many it takes away the magic of Eve. You guys keep saying report, report, report. I do report, but it takes away from my game play. I would like you guys to look at your data and investigate.
I am not a miner, Iām not jealous of the Q1 economic report stats from Delve. I just care about the game and people having fun. Eve is not my second job. I log in to have a little fun and sometimes visit friends.
Keep the game magical and I will keep logging in. I donāt make any isk or have any fun sitting at a gate reporting bots.
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But some actions can lower that possibility and some can increase it
There can still be reliability problems
Missions are reliable source of ISK while highsec DED sites arenāt
idk about stopping L4 missions for alphas whether itās good or bad for them. If it stops botting then thatās good for me. However I would like to see some fun alpha only content introduced, especially if it means they must co-operate together to get the rewards. Rookie ships rigged for suicide bombing omegas in low/null would be cool to see.
What I did ask for in the last security update was some kind of feedback on reporting botters, anything on that pls CCP?
Oh, sweet summer child.
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soe L4 noob-blitzing with t2 rhml rattle is ~60m\h without burners
ded sites was nerfed around of a year ago, so probably only guristas give more isk\h but they constantly farmed by those weird guys in tengus, serpentis 4/10 sites require keys to complete, and other players stealing those keys to sell them for scam price in dodixie
Still not understanding you. We may have a generational gap problem.
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You where born 1-2 years ago? O_o thatās the only way generation gap could explain it.
I came here to put in my input, I followed a rabbit hole from the login screen. I put in my input and expect not to be trolledā¦
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Itās not being trolled btw, just really curious about your random statement.
Iām replying to Falcons statement to me
Yes we gathered thatā¦but thatās not the reason for my comment, Iāll leave it at that as you have no idea what Iām saying ^_^.
Some time ago I have returned to game when possibility to use Rattlesnake and Gila has appeared. But new changes look like a way to limit alphas to Korean style grinding.
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