As a retired business man I can tell you that this is not going to end well for you. You cannot keep allowing Alpha accounts to keep expanding. and then raise the price of Omega. You should limit them to frigates only. That is enough for them to figure out whether they wish to move up to Omega or not. Right now? Even I am considering when my sub runs out going down to Alpha level. This was NOT the time to raise prices and devalue plex. At the very least I will NOT be resubbing the other two training alts. How many of those (thousands of players) income can you afford to loseâŚand you will lose them There are too many other choices on the market. I quit this game once and stayed away 10 years. This time it very well could be for good. Your choice.
Pretty sure weâve been calling out that risk every time a multiboxing issue comes up that churn absorbance is harder with less unique players.
Some friends of mine just cancelled there accounts thatâs over 30 accounts gone by by
I donât think that would be a winning move for them, either. In either case, what youâd end up doing is pissing off customers and potential customers.
CCP, especially over the last few years, has a very consistent pattern of behavior, and that pattern is⌠problematic, at best, from a business standpoint: âLet me beat you with this stick. I promise, eventually, there will be some kind of carrotâ
Everything comes down to that, again and again. They expect their customers to accept the stick, in return for the vaporware of nebulous promises of future carrots. Weâre still waiting for the carrots that will make the caning we took with the industry and mining changes worth it. Compression is nice and all, but it couldâve come with just a ship balance pass, and not ripping 90% of the ore out of parts of space and making customers wait for over 2 years to get anything in return.
At least this time, weâre getting âwait for Fanfestâ⌠though of course, the answer to âwhy couldnât you announce this part at Fanfest, too?â only got âthat would be cowardly, wouldnât it?â
Because, you know, telling people theyâll have to pay more to their faces is cowardly. Giving them a ring-and-run announcement on a Friday, 20 minutes before everyoneâs out of the office all weekend, thatâs a freakinâ Bronze Star for bravery, or some crap.
We have, and CCP has only doubled down on pushing the âyou want at least 2 accounts to really be able to do stuff in EVEâ. So clearly, they want the multiboxing⌠which means they need to remember that theyâve pushed people to multibox, when they come up with moves like this.
This change, like all of the changes that pushed people toward multiboxing, looks to raise money while narrowing the customer base CCP relies on. Which is exactly the wrong way to keep a business happy. You want to broaden your customer base, especially when what youâre offering is an easily-scaling digital service, rather than âhow many physical widgets can I sell?â Do that, and you can survive at a lower price point per customerâwhich, in turn, makes your service more attractive to new customers, and simultaneously earns you greater leeway with existing ones for trying radical new things.
Yeah but can you really put a price on friends 
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/sarcasm
Funnily enough, eve echoes algaâs the option to amend skins slightly so no idea why eve online wont allow you to if youâre into that kinda thing. It really does seem like they wanna just ignore people all the time and believe in their own hype.
Iâm still in touch with my friends from WoW, which I havenât played since 2008. I donât think I need CCP to keep in touch w/friends from EVE.
Yeah been playing since 2011 or before canât remember. Reason I do not like this move is that it puts me in a pickle. I receive Social Security and Eve has helped me get my mind off the present problems. I am willing to pay the $15 a month. Sometimes I miss a month because well real life comes first. But now you are raising it to almost $20 a month. Ahh no! Canât do that. I will not renew my account. I might even just quit for that matter. With times as hard as they are, rise in food prices, rent, fuel, even medicine this is putting a hardship on folks who are barely getting along. Yes I could pay for free. But it is the principle about this. You can present more things for folks to purchase then to raise the monthly price. You are going to lose a lot of loyal fans by doing this.
Toucheâ
I really wonder, what is the reason you guys are doing literally everything you can to kill this game?
Every way to generate ISK ingame is nerfed, drops are taken down to a minimum, I can run 50 havens without getting a single escalation, and when i do get one it drops only overseers.
The whole market is broken, making stuff costs more than itâs sale price for most of the stuff, that should automatically stabilize within no-time, but in eve that seems not to be the target.
If the reason is you do not want people to plex up with isk, then just change to subscription only instead of taking all the fun away and stop offending your customers with changes that only go to your benefit instead of the clients.
I have a year subscription anyway and isk i make, will be spent ingame anyways, no worries about that.
But can we please keep some good moments in the game instead of grinding only to get some isk?
A 33% price increase is of course way to much, and will leave you with less subscriptions than before, so less content in game when it comes to pvp too, so it seems the plan is to kill off your own game slowly?
what i cant figure out is why they are willing to shed omega subs in the hopes that some new ones may appear after fanfest announcements. bird in the hand metaphor
Inflation is a really stupid argument with online services, since literally everything concerning the operation of those services dropped in price over the years. Hardware, bulk traffic, you name it.
Just stop pretending and while you are at stopping: stop promising fabulous updates when the best you can do is taking bad changes back, but only half.
Ditto :))
I have 4 days left of Omega, and do you think I will sub it, NO.
These substantial price increases do not justify the rest of the mess the communityâs deal with these past couple years. Inflation is one thing. In most other situations Iâd forgive a price increase, but there are several reasons on that why, after 9 years, Iâm finally deciding to unsub until this issue is rectified:
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This game is already very expensive. Even larger MMOâs like WoW costs less, and their subs arenât even as impacted by price increases as CCP is.
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A gradual price hike and monetization is one thing. A 25% price increase is entirely different when the game is already filled with microtransactions. I already pay $150 a year for this game (under 4 sets of the 3-month plan), which is a far cry more than any others in my library. This increase is far too much for me to happily swallow.
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As many more of these 2100+ posts have read, the CSM wasnât even given room to protest. You shoved this through just like many other controversial changes to the game (notably, Scarcity).
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The new content has generated more community-wide anger than otherwise in recent months, and that means a more toxic player base. Iâll just go ahead and find a different community less affected by such events⌠which happens to be most others, by what Iâm gathering.
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As others have mentioned, the one month price discount followed by a huge price hike is incredibly underhanded, as have been the other moves by the CCP team in recent months in regards to monetizing gameplay. (Selling ships in a âplayer driven economyâ? Really?) In the future, please come back with more ethical practices if you want us to pay more!
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Referencing the numbers bit again: if youâre resorting to price hikes in a price-averse community, then that says a lot about flagging numbers. Yeah, the âEVE is deadâ mantra is repeated like it belongs in some sort of religion, and I doubt player counts are going to hit anything close to zero for a few more years. But this is how you directly slam your player base. Congratulations.
As mentioned above, Iâll be un-subbing my account until this is rectified. Yeah, Iâm a 1-account guy, and 15 bucks a month isnât all that much. But look around; Iâm not the only one doing it, and itâs going to add up.
Costs alone do not determine priceâŚ
Plex prices are already going way up, 500 Plex for almost 2 Billion isk, pretty soon it will be impossible to grind the Isk to plex your account.
itâs no fun when all you do is grind to plex
They should have NEVER introduced Plex in to the game YUP
for the new players anyways
Comparing Alpha and Omega with my own experience, the main reason for me to go Omega with two accounts was that I wanted to fly them together. Sure, there are all the Omega blocks that an Alpha runs into - but honestly, at the end of the day - all that gameplay is simply extrapolation of what you can do as Alpha depending on your goals. If youâre interested in any of the Omega blocked stuff, well, you either Omega or walk away. But if youâre just looking at some casual fun PVE and whatnot, you get a better return on just buying PLEX for ISK than you would going Omega.
Some might say that this is because Alpha has too much access to the game.
Personally, I think it is a case that Omega does not provide enough. There should be value added to the Omega subscription not only to justify the current price point but also the future price point. CCP talking about new content is great for those folks that are interested in that new content. But face it, EVE offers so many paths to play, that the promise of new content simply wonât matter to some people. So the new content wonât justify any sort of price increase for them.
CCP has to be aware of this. They should be able to take a look at snapshot to see where players are located and what they may be doing. This should give them an idea of the different kinds of content that players enjoy, and just how any new content may intrigue them. Short of this new content being so massive as to apply to almost every path of play - well, thereâs going to be that issue with folks just not caring about the new content.
So I believe that CCP needs to look at the base value of an Omega subscription and improve that value. There should be more to it. There should be something to justify that new price point to almost all players.
Otherwise, weâre looking at everybody subsidizing the gameplay of othersâŚwhich is what we have now. Unless youâre somehow spending the time to try to do everything in the game, youâre not just paying for yourself to play - youâre playing for everybody else to play. Would you go into McDonaldâs to order a Quarter Pounder for yourself and half a dozen Big Macs for other customers there?
Sure, there is always going to be some level of subsidizing of other players going on. I question the amount that should be going into it, and I believe the base value of an Omega subscription needs to be improved at the core not through some additional subsidized content.
Again, unless this announcement is so massive it improves gameplay for almost all playersâŚ
Gaming has two methods to progress, grind or pay. You want neither? Picking games is going to be difficult then.
yup
I can do Alpha, but it wont be as fun
been playing this game sense 2008 and well hmmmmm