[Discussion] PLEX and Omega price changes feedback thread

Why pay a year or two in advance. It may be cheaper, but then they have your money and even less incentive to fix the dam game, or update it. Not that they will anyway, but at least I have not given CCP a ■■■■ load of money in advance for the privilege. Instead I have moved all my mains to one account and can monitor where possible what is coming and act accordingly. Plus I do not have to spend half my playing time wading through the daily and weekly stupidly moronic player incentives they now come up with every week, on each account.

For Years I have preached how I refused to pay for my Sub with in game money… I love the game so I always wanted to financially contribute and ALWAYS HAVE .
CCP, do you know how bad you gotta F up to make me change my morals?

CCP greed will have a ripple effect!

  1. Some will simple not be able to afford it and quit
  2. Some will be able to afford it but WONT simply outta principle
  3. The infinitely rich will choose to sub with their assets

The end result will be the same , MUCH LESS MONEY FOR THE GREEDY COMPANIES EXPONENTIALLY GREEDIER OVERLORDS

Sleep now in the fire

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Far too late for that now.

Players have already bought daily alpha injectors and other crap to get more skills on their alpha accounts.
Retro-actively taking that away would be a total dick move by CCP.

CCP should have used foresight when it came to designing alpha accounts, multi-boxing, skill injection, injector trading, rorquals…

Unfcking this mess would require a lot of careful adjustments. Simply taking perks away is usually an even bigger mistake.

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Yes. The genie is not only out of the box, he’s started a family with 4.5 children and bought a cottage up north. Too late indeed.

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Agreed. I’ve done some research in the game’s history and found it was once possible to declare war on player corporations regardless of whether they had structures in space.

Perhaps that should be rolled back?

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this in a nutshell & to make a point the game WON’T attract any players in the future with the price point

logging in likely to move assets, contract them and strip SP…most of which is a pita as ALFA

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Confirmed it will be hard to convince someone to play this game with it’s convoluted learning curve and now tell them it’s an expensive monthly sub too.

Its never too late to reckognize a mistake and going another way.

First step should be the removal of Alpha Injectors, these accounts should be for the sole pupose of TESTING the game and nothing more. And that should be said explicitly on every login or at least at Account Creation.

After that, restrict their movement to HighSecurity Space and restrict their safety-setting to green. So they can use all their alpha skills in HighSec, exploring the different things one can to, from mining to scanning to ratting or producing simple things. They should not be able to create corporations or anchoring things, just flying around and doing very basic stuff and at some point decide if they want to take part (then go Omega) or not (then quit).

First step is doable. The rest not so much, unless you only intend it for new accounts. For existing accounts, that alpha functionality has already been paid for by players in many cases.

EVE is already the only “free to play” MMO, where your paid progress can be locked away, unless you pay up again. Since players can know the alpha skill limits in advance, this is somewhat acceptable, but going back on it is not.

If this was the goal, EVE should never have gone F2P and stay a pure subscription-based (+ a short trial period). Too late.

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I am 100% sure CCP has taken these factors into account like any good business would. If they knew the backlash would be too much, they would have likely not have done this.

CCP wasn’t born yesterday, despite their actions.

Oh dear.

You do realise that CCP actually makes real money out of the sale of Alpha Injectors, just as they do from Omega subscriptions? Ditto for the sale of Expert Systems? These are all ways of monetising “free” accounts, without people necessarily having to make the binary choice of subscription or not. That is why CCP introduced these means of getting money from Alphas.

Do you also realise that a lot of Alpha accounts are run by people who also have an Omega subscription? They are still paying CCP, but sometimes playing with a different account. That is only a problem with the minority who actively flout the rule on not having an Alpha logged in at the same time as any other account. Now, that is a real abuse, but the issue is not Alphas per se, but CCP’s policing of the rule. Given that one notorious HS ganker has actually boasted in these fora of multiboxing “her” Alphas, then CCP only have themselves to blame if they cannot be bothered to check on such abuses…

CCP doing a press release

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Well it’s nice to see posts that make me feel good about my decision to quit the game. Thanks.

Nice changes I spy here. Very courageous, too.

Can’t wait to never subscribe again, because that’s the only way they will ever listen.

Or, more likely, they will shutdown the whole thing in a year, and blame it on low “player engagement” or literally any reason that have nothing to do with decisions they made last 5 years.

It was nice while it lasted, though.

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I am not mad, just sad. I have been playing EVE for over eight years now and fell in love with the game from the very beginning. I liked the steep learning curve, the different nuances and the ability to discover and learn new things every day. Even today I still find out things about ships, mods and the EVE universe that I had not explored before. It is these factors that give the game some longevity and keeps me logging in every day.

I never was a hard core player and had no desire to battle it out in null, create a massive corporation or be a cog in another person’s dream corp. I am a casual player running a small corp that caters to players like myself. I have two alts, both paid for in cash, and live in a nice C2 wormhole. I dabble in a little of everything EVE has to offer and do not excel at anything. :slight_smile: I love open world sandbox games and have always been fascinated with space and science fiction. EVE fit that bill perfectly and never regretted joining the EVE universe.

Until now…

In the past few years it seems that CCP has done everything to hinder the playstyle of players like myself, the small indy player and corporation. They nerfed moon ores, they created false “shortages”, they messed with bp’s and industry, they nerfed drops and exploration sites. And, in place of real content, they threw us “Events” that gave us fewer and fewer rewards and drops that made us act like feral dogs going after scraps.

Then, to put the nail in the coffin of most small corps such as ourselves, they have announced a nerf to structures so bad that it will be easier to destroy a billion dollar medium structure than a small mobile depot. Follow that with the price increase they announced a few days later and I cannot justify a reason to stay on as a paying customer.

I will not leave EVE, I have too much affection for the game. But as of now I am pulling out of wormhole space, informing my corp mates of our move and stockpiling my belongings in a NPC structure. I will play as an Alpha pilot, waiting for the day EVE returns to the game I used to love or the day it ends forever. I am hoping for the resurrection of EVE but am afraid I am going to watch it burn.

And the prospect of watching something die I cared for so much makes me sad.

And angry at those who may cause its death.

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Exactly that is why they are offering large discounts to get players to pay two years in front.

I am hoping that the addition of a 2 year plan is followed by a 2 year+ roadmap at Fanfest to get people excited enough to want to buy that plan.

Don’t forget the drifter stuff, those cloaked structures etc etc.