[Discussion] PLEX and Omega price changes feedback thread

Adapt to those price changes by micromanaging your ingame assets, clear out that old hanger full of items that is sitting idle for the just in case needed scenario. Take greater risks to haul it back to a market hub,

Think outside the box by looking at the fresh new pilots who might fill your gameplay wtih something new or share with them something of old.

Most of all try to rediscover the reason for becoming a pilot yourself inside this wonderful gamespace called New Eden.

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What new pilots? With a game this expensive to get into (you can get lots of very decent games on steam for 20$, let alone 20$ a month) I don’t see the community growing anytime soon, most likely to shrink.

And no, i will not ā€˜adapt’ to the changes ccp puts us through needlessly, if i have no fun in game i will not plaiy it. Buying plex through isk is the same as buying them directly someone else bought it with money at first either way.

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Spend a few minutes in rookie chat and you will soon notice the new pilots who are asking questions.

Steam yes, why not both? Our own game time is just as valuable to us as it is to another who would rather focus on playing a new game each month.

Perhaps I still lean on the side of accepting what is thrown at me as it is not a unachievable price to pay for myself and my gametime is limited and I see the value I had already applied to learn this game.

Soon many will be making a decision to stay and pay or leave as find something new, CCP is also giving us that opportunity to have a fresh start by shaking the Eve Online Tree for us to decide to hold on or drop off.

The ripple effect will be felt right through even in Nulsec my guess it will allow the fox to unsettle the hen house.

You don’t use MTC…each account has a farmed toon. You literally can have as many accounts as you want so why lump all your toons in one account? As mentioned, the investment you need is 500 PLEX to push past 5.5M SP per account. If you want a toon in that account to actually use, when you switch training time to the second toon, your farmed character isn’t accruing SP so that is another cost.

EvE’s new player retention is low, very very low. Having newbies in rookie chat doesnt mean they’ll stick around. And yes my game time is also valuable, which is why i chose to play a game that i have fun with or find some kind of acommplishement, as i used to with eve’s industry, or i leave. Here i am hoping they revert back that decision, even if i know they will not, corporate pride y’know.

I do not understand that argument about people leaving being a good thing, CCP is a profit driven company (doesnt mean they have to be this toxic, there’s plenty of respectful profit driven companies) If EvE bleeds too many players and the game becomes unprofitable, they’ll shut it down eventually, having less players in an already empty galaxy is not a good thing.

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The first part I agree with you and the second I’m unable to comment on to my best ability.

The first though I would like to think there are plans in place to attract and retain new pilots or even reach out to those who had once tried and left. I don’t want to think of any scenario where this ends up just a corporate cash grab.

I am looking forward to the shake up either way for the second part of your reply is all I feel like adding.

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No PLEX needed. The first 6 million SP can be free.

All it takes is spinning up as many alpha accounts as you can be bothered, at the earliest opportunity.

The first 5 million SP train for free in the background, while you do other stuff. The last million comes from storing the unallocated SPs from the referral code and only applying them at the last moment (from 5M to 6M).

That right there should be stopped, abusing free accounts.

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CCP are morons for never having figured it out. This is entirely on them.

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Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.

Yes it’s stupid of them. I hope they crack down on it.

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I just think ppl will scale down to what they can afford to subscribe.

More alpha pilots.

More single and dual omega accounts.
( like old days )

In the end i dont think they are gonna earn more money.

And.

Can we now get a 7 days clean Omega / Veteran / Semi active payment. for 7 euro / dollars ?

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Cave Johnson responds

These accounts burn PLEX which is great for CCP. They are fully aware of this.

So CCP needs to add more itemised billing to consume PLEX for features, candidates for itemised billing are

  • User API access (put the clientsecret/devkey burden onto the user)
  • More fitting slots (database storage costs)
  • Translation of chat via AWS service (AWS translation costs)
  • More hanger space (database storage costs)

Other MMO’s charge for extra things, so why not.

I am sure you can think of more things to consume PLEX for.

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TBH I’ve never tried this as before you are blocked from exceeding the Alpha SP limit of 5M. Pretty sure this has not changed but again, haven’t checked myself.

EDIT: found this recent doc

I think CCP could have done a lot more from the start on how many things are handled. Hanger space is a great example. Offices also…

More ways to burn PLEX is great as long as it’s not P2W (no immediate advantage).

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P2W has been in Eve since PLEX landed, and by extension, anything PLEX can buy or sell into to buy such as injectors and ships. It’s too late to cry about P2W imo.

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True. RL money will give an advantage if one is willing to spend on PLEX. No guarantee that the items will be available but I get you point and you are right.

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That would make CCP even sillier still. At no point should CCP ever need to become desperate for players to buy PLEX for ISK.

Enough veterans that aren’t account spinning (yet), will still be in the market to buy PLEX before it ever becomes cheap. CCP doesn’t need account spinners for this.
(Failing that, CCP could easily buy PLEX off the player market using their own market alts, if they really wanted to, creating artificial demand. We’d never even have to know.)

In the end, they are still giving away 6 million SPs for every spin through the backdoor, while they are now trying to put the Squeeze on players coming in through the front gate. That’s potential revenue pissed away.