You don’t use MTC…each account has a farmed toon. You literally can have as many accounts as you want so why lump all your toons in one account? As mentioned, the investment you need is 500 PLEX to push past 5.5M SP per account. If you want a toon in that account to actually use, when you switch training time to the second toon, your farmed character isn’t accruing SP so that is another cost.
EvE’s new player retention is low, very very low. Having newbies in rookie chat doesnt mean they’ll stick around. And yes my game time is also valuable, which is why i chose to play a game that i have fun with or find some kind of acommplishement, as i used to with eve’s industry, or i leave. Here i am hoping they revert back that decision, even if i know they will not, corporate pride y’know.
I do not understand that argument about people leaving being a good thing, CCP is a profit driven company (doesnt mean they have to be this toxic, there’s plenty of respectful profit driven companies) If EvE bleeds too many players and the game becomes unprofitable, they’ll shut it down eventually, having less players in an already empty galaxy is not a good thing.
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The first part I agree with you and the second I’m unable to comment on to my best ability.
The first though I would like to think there are plans in place to attract and retain new pilots or even reach out to those who had once tried and left. I don’t want to think of any scenario where this ends up just a corporate cash grab.
I am looking forward to the shake up either way for the second part of your reply is all I feel like adding.
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No PLEX needed. The first 6 million SP can be free.
All it takes is spinning up as many alpha accounts as you can be bothered, at the earliest opportunity.
The first 5 million SP train for free in the background, while you do other stuff. The last million comes from storing the unallocated SPs from the referral code and only applying them at the last moment (from 5M to 6M).
That right there should be stopped, abusing free accounts.
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CCP are morons for never having figured it out. This is entirely on them.
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Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.
Yes it’s stupid of them. I hope they crack down on it.
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I just think ppl will scale down to what they can afford to subscribe.
More alpha pilots.
More single and dual omega accounts.
( like old days )
In the end i dont think they are gonna earn more money.
And.
Can we now get a 7 days clean Omega / Veteran / Semi active payment. for 7 euro / dollars ?
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Cave Johnson responds
These accounts burn PLEX which is great for CCP. They are fully aware of this.
So CCP needs to add more itemised billing to consume PLEX for features, candidates for itemised billing are
- User API access (put the clientsecret/devkey burden onto the user)
- More fitting slots (database storage costs)
- Translation of chat via AWS service (AWS translation costs)
- More hanger space (database storage costs)
Other MMO’s charge for extra things, so why not.
I am sure you can think of more things to consume PLEX for.
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TBH I’ve never tried this as before you are blocked from exceeding the Alpha SP limit of 5M. Pretty sure this has not changed but again, haven’t checked myself.
EDIT: found this recent doc
I think CCP could have done a lot more from the start on how many things are handled. Hanger space is a great example. Offices also…
More ways to burn PLEX is great as long as it’s not P2W (no immediate advantage).
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P2W has been in Eve since PLEX landed, and by extension, anything PLEX can buy or sell into to buy such as injectors and ships. It’s too late to cry about P2W imo.
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True. RL money will give an advantage if one is willing to spend on PLEX. No guarantee that the items will be available but I get you point and you are right.
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That would make CCP even sillier still. At no point should CCP ever need to become desperate for players to buy PLEX for ISK.
Enough veterans that aren’t account spinning (yet), will still be in the market to buy PLEX before it ever becomes cheap. CCP doesn’t need account spinners for this.
(Failing that, CCP could easily buy PLEX off the player market using their own market alts, if they really wanted to, creating artificial demand. We’d never even have to know.)
In the end, they are still giving away 6 million SPs for every spin through the backdoor, while they are now trying to put the Squeeze on players coming in through the front gate. That’s potential revenue pissed away.
There is no hard SP limit to alpha accounts.
The 5 million “limit” only applies to the drip feed that they call “training”. Unallocated SPs continue to work past 5M.
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Except that pesky Omega skill wall.
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Neither account spinners or regular skill farmers need to care about the restricted skill levels. They are just in it for the free skillpoints or the Plex discount, respectively.
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