New Eden’s market is so volatile right now as just last week skill extractors were selling for 408 now selling for 432. That’s 240m jump per 10 stack and the conversion from isk to plex is still under 4m
Something huge is going to happen.
Some folks on reddit have suggested that PLEX and extractors are in high demand from Russians who can only sub by extracting SP. that would also explain why injectors are not increasing along with extractors as they are being dumped on the market.
I’m not smart enough to know if this is true, but it sounds plausible. It’s destroying the value of SP farming at the moment, which sucks for those of us who just sell SP to get an omega discount on characters that we use.
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it is not true
the truth is that the subscription price has increased, while the game does not offer anything new to spend SP or other price changes in ISK farm places, so SP in the game is in low demand.
therefore, when the price of PLEX increased significantly, it became unprofitable to pay for the subscription through the sale of SP accumulated for the month, now you need to pay another 1 billion ISK to buy a omega.
I waiting with interest how this will all end. most likely there will be big discounts on the purchase of PLEX very soon:). but I also see that many of my friends are not ready to spend so much ISK on the purchase of omega and are considering the option of either leaving the game or playing casual on alpha without spending on omega, sp.
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There is a design which would help reduce multi boxing, if resource acquisition was a bit more like explo i.e. you had to scan down ore sigs and rather than allowing you to farm the resource for x hours with y ships, it provided a single large ish drop of resources such that you can still acquire enough resources to build a ship in say 2 hours, but it means scanning down and farming 10-15 sigs with a single account.
Relic site hunting is engaging and fun and you can’t really multi box it.
The above model is the design Albion Online uses where you can’t multi box farm resources because you’re travelling all around the black zone searching for resource nodes which you can mine/skin etc in a few mins at most.
It’s the fact anoms/belts are just a sit-and-wait farm mechanic which makes n+1 the meta. I ran 4 perfectly skilled rorq pilots, loved it, but I did it because of the CCP design, not in spite of it. This isn’t the players fault and that’s what you aren’t really grasping.
I think if Eve was being designed now, they might go down the above path, but at this stage, with an average of 3 accounts per customer it would be economic suicide.
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Skill injectors now sell at about 700 M, pretty close to the all time high at the start of may. Sales volume is only slightly lower than normal, so I don’t think that’s quite it.
Players are still buying injectors at relatively high prices, surprisingly.
The looming trouble for the farmers is that the extractor prices rose with the price of PLEX, so they cannot continue to profit from the price increase, unless they bought a lot of extractors well in advance (though I reckon a lot of the bigger players did get many extractors in bulk sales when the sale was still on).
The winners are the guys who continually hoarded PLEX long before the announcement. Starting an SP farm now would be a bad idea though.
Maybe we’ll also get to see a real decline in demand for SPs and injectors in the future, as CCP has kicked away most of the economic ladders over the past few years (no point in skilling into ships you can’t afford - CCP effectively killing their own business model), but I’m not seeing those results just right now.
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30 Accounts. All but the Original Account are Bio massed and in the Process of Emailing CCP for Permanent Deletion.
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Skill injectors were over 1b already 2 or 3 years ago, I share the russia-theory of flooding the market as they don’t have any alternative.
I stand corrected. December 2019 was 900 M.
I guess I got too used to the cheap prices we had in 2021.
Could this also include what is happening as per what @Delvin_Sek informed us with though? It is happening on a much larger scale as more players are extracting from alts eg, pilot alts under 50m.
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This is more general discussion rather than feedback as my observation is certainly not what CCP can actually see.
the events of February-March of course influenced, but from all the schedules it can be seen that the crisis began from April 20-24, and this is the date of the announcement of the subscription increase. players simply chose that the price was high and decided to pay in PLEX. Yes, and events, Capsuleer Day with tons of free SP, ISK, changing entrance awards, also contributed to the depreciation of SP, increase in the price of PLEX
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Isk to Plex conversion had seen 4.4m back 2019 The Imperium News suggested back then with Plex prices being this high (2019) Feeding more plex into the in-game market was a good thing for CCP for the short term though long run would lower the amount of players. It then gave a scenario of a single account casual player named “Jeff” which showed that it would be impossible to continue on Alpha after first trying Omega and that the larger issue back in 2019 was Eve was coming to an end for such casual player.
It gets back to quoted from news article;
mostly casual players are finding a monthly Plex to be a near impossible goal to shoot for.
This form of feedback was with us from 2019 and now 2022 there has to be a master plan not yet revealed to us by CCP to justify such rapid market changes where Player no longer controls the in game market system.
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Yes wait for fanfest 2023, or maybe 2024, for them to reveal it.
In the meantime, here’s some 2 for 1 extractors!
If they don’t lower the price back down like asap, then they are done for, eve will begin and keep a downward spiral, all over 5 bucks per account, when half, or better of the accounts out there are alts, and no way for them to have a good fair discount, when buying 6 or 12 subs per month…and honestly even if your buying one sub a month, 20 is to much…
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You should check out Star Citizen. The Aegis Complete Pack is now only £8635. Only available to wealthy insiders (Concierge) such as yourself.
The problem is that in that game, I wouldn’t be able to use whatever is in that pack to engage in virtual violence against my poorer, weaker peers without their consent, which is something I need to do in order to assert my dominance over others as a nearly-sexual form of psychological gratification.
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1st June 2022 fingers crossed
I have 4 toons omega in UK. That will be £64 per month?
I can’t justify that going out of the house over heating , food ect ( those with family’s will understand I am sure).
Been a ride, all the best o7
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CCP pikachu face
I have no idea what that is ??
A meme about being surprised by something stupidly obvious. ^^
As if it wasnt obvious that ccp would lose customers by doing that.