The closest thing to this is Abyssal PVP proving grounds CCP started up. They are pretty fun CCP gives 100mil (on the battleship events) if you do enough damage so if you die it’s not too bad of a hurt on wallet. People buy ships from Jita. Lose them in proving grounds. Cycle continues? Right…? Looking at the instanced pvp debaters here.
Ok let me break this down for you a little bit.
Current 0.8 - 1.0 Ore Harvesting: - (Can be ganked mining and transporting.)
Yield = Tritanium, Pyrite, Mexallon - Sale price = 4 isk, 8 isk, 73 isk.
Current 0.5 - 0.7 Ore Harvesting: - (Can be ganked mining and transporting.)
Yield = Tritanium, Pyrite, Mexallon - Sale price = 4 isk, 8 isk, 73 isk.
Current 0.4 - 0.0 Ore Harvesting: - (Can be ganked mining and transporting.)
Yield = all the rest of the Ores at current prices.
Proposed 0.8 - 1.0 Ore Harvesting: - (Cannot be ganked mining and transporting.)
Yield = Tritanium, Pyrite, Mexallon - Sale price = 4 isk, 8 isk, 73 isk.
Proposed 0.4 - 0.7 Ore Harvesting: - (Can be ganked mining and transporting.)
Yield = Tritanium, Pyrite, Mexallon, Isogen, Nocxium - Sale price = 4 isk, 8 isk, 73 isk, 400 isk, 1100 isk.
Proposed 0.3 - 0.0 Ore Harvesting: - (Can be ganked mining and transporting.)
Yield = all the rest of the Ores at current prices.
How are my proposed ideas going to cause the market to be flooded with ore with no risk? The only safe zone is 0.8 - 1.0 space of which you can only get Tritanium, Pyerite, and maybe some Mexallon. The prices for these items are already well diminished. By adding the additional ores to the 0.4 and 0.5 space means a higher value cargo hold of ores to be ganked. If I want to haul my ore to be sold in the trade hubs I would still need to travel through hostile space with the possibility of getting ganked.
If you just want to gather resources and build stuff, go play minecraft, for real. If you want to have solo adventure go play solo game.
It’s the prospect of losing your ship and precious cargo that makes eve eve. Some people can’t handle it and that is alright. Not everything must cater to everyone, that’s just unsustainable and pointless.
You want to play game about piracy and trade but without piracy and trade. As others point out, what’s the reason for harvesting and selling, when there’s no reason to build because nothing gets destroyed?
Games are fun because they have inconveniences that players have to play around and that’s what makes the gameplay.
Maybe you don’t even want to play, just want to watch a screen and have it do stuff… watch a movie instead…
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So yeah, I had taken a break from Eve due to a general burn out caused by WWB2 as well as some RL obligations, but I was planning to come back to the game at some point, maybe in a few months. I hadn’t even thought about Eve in a few months and I just saw the price hike.
I don’t understand why everyone is surprised this happened. Wasn’t it obvious? First CCP introduces that ‘scarcity’ crap to make it harder to build stuff and drive up all the prices on the market. Then they make changes to the bounties to make it harder to make ISK ratting. So, it’s harder to make ISK, therefore it’s harder (if not impossible) to make enough to plex with ISK (unless you’re grinding 15 hours a day). And then, boom, they raise prices. It’s obvious that this was the plan all along, and all the talk about ‘balancing the distribution of wealth’ and ‘revitalizing the economy’ was just them talking out of their ass.
I have therefore decided not to renew the subscription on my 3 accounts. It’s sad, as I’ve been playing since 2007, but it’s been going in this direction for a while now, and this whole situation was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Fly safe, everyone
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Can I have your stuff? Oh wait, I cancelled too. Anyone want his stuff?
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Can i have the stuff of you both??
These ideas suck.
The fact that your idea would marginalize low sec even more.
Here’s a better idea.
Level 1 through 3 missions are offered in systems with security status of 0.0 through 1.0
Level 4-5 missions are offered and can only be run in systems with security status of 0.0 through 4.0
Time for you to put some skin into the game and risk that blingy marauder. High risk comes with high reward.
Ore distribution is fine as it is. Don’t want to risk it? Fine but all you get is veldspar.
I think you should stop assuming you know how I want to play the game and what I enjoy. I do appreciate you opinion and feedback, you clearly don’t understand what I love about Eve why I have played it for so many years.
How you see and want Eve to feel is great…but it is your opinion.
Cheers,
JJ
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The ideas were actually fairly decent. Your idea is actually worse in terms of what certain player bases want. This player doesn’t want skin in the game for PvP, that is the point. If you want to say, I agree and lvl 4 should be turned up a notch or two with higher payouts, but a chance you lose that bling marauder I would absolutely agree.
The thought there has to be only PVE or PVP will always cut one side out. There needs to be a balance, currently, PVP wins they can do it anywhere at any time no matter what. PVE a player can’t enjoy PVE without the risk of bottomfeeders coming along.
It is a sad fact that needs to be corrected in the new era of Eve.
JJ
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So I was playing Monopoly with my brother and his kids. His little girl decided that the game would be more fun for her if nobody got charged rent when they landed on property. She got the game she wanted and we made it fun for a bit. But once all the property was bought there was no point in paying for houses and hotels………the money we were getting for passing go was next to worthless. And the bank eventually ran out of money and we had to stop playing. Then my niece got upset that nobody had won.
Turning off PVP in areas of space is game breaking. It removes content. It removes meaningful decisions………It would be the death of Eve.
So i accept that this player WANTS to have a place where there is absolute safety…….but myself and many other players want a vibrant ecosystem where decisions matter. Why should that be broken to facilitate this?
As it should be. Every time any of us undock we are at risk. This is how the game works.
Forunately EVE is not like Zwift where virtue signaling players are demanding that players from your country are banned from their game for something that is nothing to do with them
A good reason to make sure your mining permit is upto date.
I just watched a video on Youtube that kinda drove everything home.
The thesis of the video was that ever since the the sale to Pearl Abyss, everything that CCP has done has driven monetization. CCP says that they are adjusting things, but when you crunch the math, it is just moving stuff from bucket to bucket in ever more creative ways to encourage people to spend more money.
After watching the video, everytime I log in and see them pushing whatever special deal they have, it provides reinforcement that we are not playing EVE Online. We are playing (and paying for) EVE The Cash Grab. That Pearl Abyss has ordered Hilmar to squeeze the last peso out of EVE online before it fades into nothingness or fall on that two handed sword.
Sigh.
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For “some” reason, I never needed one. Go figure…
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This captures my feelings exactly. It’s not that I can’t afford the new prices, it’s the overwhelming disappointment over what Eve has become.
Being disabled I would play for 10 hours a day doing things I enjoyed while making reasonable ISK, Now it is a mind numbing grind for too little reward. PvP was always hard for me because of the disabilities, but manufacturing was a good way to interact with the community. CCP destroyed that for the independent player,
After CCP sold fitted ships, and the impact of realigning resources, I decided to let my Omega’s expire. I currently have time left on 1 omega, but the other three are alphas. I check in from time to time with little hope CCP will somehow change course.
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Good evening,
It was inevitable that such a type of video would surface in such a context…
So thank you for this link to this video which perfectly sums up what many here also think…
Ully Loom
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That tends to happen when you douce yourself in ganker repellant spray.
No, we do not need more scarcity… it’s so hard to gather the materials needed to build capital ships, it’s sickening, we need more gas, ore, and ice anomalies, in all secs. and for the cost to play eve, I don’t agree with you, I didn’t mind before the recent price change giving eve 200$ USD a month, but when they change the price and give us nothing in return other than fixing the mess they made, to begin with, yea not cool, if we had heraldry now, and a few other things they brought up at Eve Fest now, like the discount for guys like me who run massive alts, and skins for our stations, and less SCARCITY… not who knows when, could be never, but right now, then I would Gladly hand over 5 more dollars per account per month, but raising the price with nothing to give us was ■■■■■■■■, and the numbers clearly show that is how most payers feel, eve has steadily dropped its player count since eve fest … Eve will die if the guys running things now keep running them, they have no idea how to please the Eve community
My dear @AbraxasCadmus, @ntopios was being sarcastic - every single post of his is pure sarcasm. He is a master of the genre.
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i totally feel you ,and i can assure you that ccp is focusing on the current market problem .The solution is coming and will fix the demand and prices of every single item in the game.You can have every component to build your capitals ships throw the new eden store where you can buy all in game items with your credit card .