Dispelling The Hype Over Alien Life

I think we would have a lot of trouble getting through the oort cloud which takes around 200 years to reach at the current top speed. I would think it’s dense with rocks and debris and would rip any vehicle attempting to go through apart Meeting new forms of life would be the least of our troubles.

Meeting alien life is probably bad. We haven’t even gotten a manned mission past the Moon. These guys would probably have some sort of drive system that’s far more advanced than anything we can think of, given that Alpha Centauri is a 4.3 year journey at light speed. If they’ve figured out FTL travel, they’re clearly WAY more advanced than us. Really our only hope for survival as a species is to hope that humanity can offer them more alive than exterminated.

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UFO WITNESS DECLARATION
FACT: From 1982 to 1985, large triangular and boomerang-shaped UFOs were
reported over the Hudson Valley by over 7,000 credible witnesses, including
police and officials at the Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant.

FACT: In 1989 and 1990, large triangular and rectangular unidentified flying
objects, one the size of an aircraft carrier, were reported over Belgium by over
2,000 witnesses, including police and military personnel.

FACT: In 1997, multiple sightings of a mile long boomerang-shaped UFO were
reported over the state of Arizona by over 10,000 witnesses, including police,
military personnel and Republican Governor Fife Symington.

We make no claims as to the nature or origin of these UFOs. However, those
who have taken the time and effort to conduct serious, in-depth investigations
into these reports know that these sightings are of real, physical crafts and are
indisputable FACTS. Thousands of such sightings of physical crafts of unknown
origin have been reported throughout the world for decades by credible
witnesses, yet most who report such sightings are treated with ridicule, disbelief,
scorn and even threats.

In light of the facts, we who have witnessed such unexplained crafts no
longer accept this cynical mindset as realistic or credible.
Those of us who are witnesses to the UFO phenomenon know they exist for a
fact. This is not an issue of speculation for such witnesses. However, we do not
insist that non-witnesses must believe such objects exist, only that witnesses be
treated with respect and that we deserve the same fairness and courtesy
afforded to any individual or group who honestly expresses their point of view
without fear of ridicule, punishment or persecution.

Recent polls clearly demonstrate that more than 50% of Americans believe that
UFOs are a real phenomenon that deserves legitimate recognition and serious
study by open-minded, qualified scientists, rather than being summarily
dismissed as misperceptions, fantasies, hoaxes or hallucinations by cynical,
unqualified debunkers. Over 36 million Americans have seen a UFO.
To put this statistic in political terms, these witnesses are also voters.

Therefore, we urge all who agree with the spirit of this declaration to send copies
of this letter to their representatives, public officials, the media, the police, the
military, airline officials, NASA and all candidates running for any public office to
assure them that our votes will go only to those who acknowledge the UFO
phenomenon as real and deserving of serious scientific investigation and who
publicly endorse fairness and respect toward any witness who reports a UFO.

Of course seeing some phenomena isnt a proof its aliens tho, for proof they would need to get one of those and study it.

I’m in a UK UFO forum…and in 4 years there all I have ever seen is lens flare, blurry birds, Venus, airplanes, yada yada. Most people haven’t a clue how to even recognize common objects in the sky…and I have even seen what was clearly the Moon posted as a ‘UFO’.

One of the Pentagon UFOs taken by an F-15 was clearly just a Batman balloon. The Nimitz ‘go fast’ UFO wasn’t going fast at all…it was just a parallax effect. And so on…

And Haim Eshed is just a grumpy old pensioner?

We know from documentaries such as Mirage Men that there’s been a huge amount of psyops over UFOs…with the US government happy to keep the whole thing going to deflect from genuine black projects.

Well, in order to understand unusual things recorded with cameras, it is far more useful to be an expert in cameras and optics than to be any kind of expert on whatever is supposed to be recorded.

The Pentagon’s “UFO files” have all been explained as optical phenomenons, and turns out that the more dramatic “UFO encounters” have no recorded evidence.

Also it’s kind of funny how nowadays when there are literally billions of high quality portable cameras all over the world, UFO sightings (and paranormal sightings BTW) are mostly gone and have been replaced with blatant fabrications, potato recordings and ordinary things in unusual circumstances.

Also: while cameras record real things…

…those things might not be real. :wink:

I have a personal belief, not a knowledge or such things, but a belief, that there was, is or will be life, even sentient, with memories, on another planet somewhere in the universe.

But I dont believe we will ever know about it. Because of all the distances and the technology not being able to make a reveal to us or them.

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People are often impressed by the number of stars in the universe, and argue it means there must be other life. But…there is a number vastly larger than the number of stars in the universe. The odds against photosynthesis protein molecules just ‘happening’ to fold in the right way for photosynthesis. Those odds are around 10^300 ( ten to the power of three hundred )…which is a trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion times larger than the number of stars in the universe.

Unless there is some special magic that makes photosynthesis molecules always choose just the right combination out of 10^300…then we are to all extents and purposes very alone indeed.

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Well, as life goes, self-organizing matter kills a lot of “wrong” ways. No matter what are the odds of two atoms of hydrogen and one atom of oxygen reaching a stable state where the atoms of hydrogen are at the exact distance and location to build a cubic lattice when frozen, that’s exactly the only way in which a water mollecule can exist because of the forces involved. Atoms don’t need to randomly hit the sweet spot, the spot just happens. There’s not just chaos, strange atractors also happen.

And at the end of the day, the only world we experience is one in which the wave function already collapsed, Schrodinger’s cat is meowing or rotting, and all the alternate collapses of uncertainty never mattered.

Are we alone in the universe? Probably don’t. But we’re gonna look like damn fools (if we even are remembered) when contact actually happens. Do we know of the origin of the universe according to some sheperd by the shores of the Yangtze river at 6:49 PM of wednesday october 17th of 3879 b.C? No, we don’t. We can’t. I bet you they were pretty freaky. Like we trying to figure out alien contact without even knowing the essentials of a thousand scientific facts without which contact will not happen.

Alien contact is not our trouble to sort. Now, for that habit of burning fossile carbon deposits into brand new atmospheric carbon dyoxide, maybe could we pretty please do something…?

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The hand of God perhaps? If we apply those crazy odds to the fact we are living then there is obviously something going on we don’t know about and most likely never will.

I heard they do that ocasionally if conditions are right and there is enough time.

Its like the probability of life existing somewhere have already reached 100% already. We dont have to search further, but there is this precedent.

This isn’t the precedent you are looking for.

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The odds of life existing elsewhere, outside of the Sol system is 100%. All you need to do is look at the Tardrigrade that can survive in space for a few months without any nutrients and then come back to life when their bodies come into contact with water.

As long as a planet has water, mosses and lichens, there will be Tardigrades, and thus life.

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That is ass backwards thinking. Tardigrades are vastly more complex than simple single-celled life…and you have to first prove that even simple single-celled life exists out there.

Pretty long video, but it does a good work of presenting the knowledge we have now about exoplanets to this day, and search for life on them.

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Life must exist in the Universe. Some galaxies would be male galaxies while other galaxies are female galaxies. Each galaxy would contain male or female DNA that when a male galaxy collides with a female galaxy and the DNA is combined, life is born in the aftermath. Such an idea is relative to male and female copulation on Earth.

That makes sense. So that explains why “The Milky Way” is a galaxy that has life - because it has been inseminated.