Dispelling The Hype Over Alien Life

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And what evidence do you have that alien life does not exist in the Universe other than on Earth?

Telling someone that they have a case of Dunning Kruger is in fact you having Dunning Kruger because you constantly tell everyone they are wrong about alien life existing in the Universe. You spout off with baseless mumbo jumbo about evidence this and evidence that, and yet, you have not provided one shred of evidence to prove your theory regarding aliens not existing in the Universe.

What I think you are really doing is using fancy linguistics to ridicule people who believe in life existing elsewhere in the Universe because Eve Online canon is based on humans being the only life in the Universe. If you are basing your belief on canonical application of the back story of Eve Online to try and keep readers in the mindset of humans being the only life that exists in the real Universe, then you definitely have a case of Dunning Kruger.

So once again, never having set foot on the trillions times a trillion worlds + in our Universe where is your evidence that proves humanity is the only life in this Universe?

And no you can’t use role reversal because you started the conversation and definitely stated that life doesn’t exist in the Universe other than on Earth and yet, you can’t prove what you are saying is true based on lack of evidence.

You’re not a scientist, you’re canonical and can’t accept anything that is outside the bounds of knowledge that has already been discovered and proven as fact. You’re of the mindset of following in the footsteps of others who have been proven correct because you can’t prove anything yourself.

Explain the reason why humans take so long to develop defensive capabilities when all of the other life on Earth takes less than five years to be able to fully develop defensive capabilities.

Even if humans did evolve after the asteroid struck Earth and killed off all of the dinosaurs, humans would still have needed a place, away from the savage’s environment of the dawn of man to evolve in.

Let’s say humans did evolve on Earth, why would evolution increase the time it takes for humans to develop defensive capabilities, which would increase the chance of humans not surviving when humanities survival mechanism was working just fine after the dino-killing asteroid collided with Earth?

If NASA didn’t have a belief in alien life existing then why would NASA teach people to look for signs of alien life? Why would NASA build space telescopes and send rovers to Mars looing for life? Because someone had a belief that life exists outside of Earth. Belief is the foundation of science, without belief, there is no reason to prove correct or incorrect.

I’m also certain that you like to start fights, on purpose, because you believe you are untouchable.

You are also just like the mind heads over at Trek BBS, surrounded by science-fiction, but whenever discussions about warp drive or aliens existing or something that isn’t already in a book, the canon alarms go off and out come the dingy moderators swinging ban hammers,

No, I’m certain you have Dunning Kruger’s.

NASA’s Search for Life: Astrobiology in the Solar System and Beyond | NASA

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If you’re so proper why do you come to Eve Online, a totally sci-fi environment that is not real and will never be real, because Eve Online is full of improper science.

You are definitely ‘big headed’ Altara, especially by Neil DeGrasse Tyson standards - The Search for Life in the Universe : Neil deGrasse Tyson

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Altara means “Derived from the star Altair” - If you are identifying as being from the star Altair, then that means you’re an alien and have proven yourself incorrect and that aliens do in fact exist.

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You guys are so dumb. There is a ton of evidence out there.

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Actually thats MIB.

Humans can be considered alien to Earth. Humans are the only species that walks upright 99% of the time while other species have maintained their ancestral traits of slithering, swimming or walking or walking on all fours 100% of the time. The traits I have listed above are consistent for Earth based species. Humans however walk as the means of getting around. With humans walking upright and most other animals not, humanity does not fit in with the evolutionary traits of life on Earth. More animals should have developed traits to walk up right, based on watching humans from a distance and then mimicking humans over millions of years, if modern day humans actually came from Earth.

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Nope…you still are oblivious to how science actually works. You make a claim something exists…YOU provide the evidence that it does.

Science does not have to ‘prove’ that unicorns, bigfoot, fairies, goblins, and leprechauns do not exist. The scientific default is that they don’t exist and it is 100% the onus of anyone claiming they do to prove so. If you had ever actually read a proper scientific journal rather than the ‘science’ column of the Daily Mail…you’d know that !

So where is your actual scientific evidence for aliens ? You don’t have any. ALL you have is your blinkered and biased belief.

You keep pretending that you grasp science, but it is patently obvious that you don’t. Frankly I have had enough of your pretentious BS.

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Don’t be daft. I play Skyrim, for example, despite never having encountered a dragon, cast fireballs and killed zombies a mile away, or entered caves full of 10 foot wide spiders.

Seriously, you need to avoid arguing with people who have a black belt in spotting ludicrous non-sequiturs.

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If you play Skyrim, then why are you trolling the Eve Online forums? A black belt in spotting the ludicrous How many times do you judo chop yourself on a daily basis?

There is no such thing as having a black belt in spotting ludicrous

Flushes the toilet. You might wamt to jiggle the handle on your way out, because getting stuck and not being able to bend is ludicrous.

Do you discount Neil DeGrasse Tysons comments on E.T.?

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Oh there is. Hang on while I add another notch to my belt.

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Sigh. Science is not about cherry picking people who say things you like. It is about evidence. Where is Neil DeGrasse Tyson’s evidence ? I don’t care what he ‘believes’…beliefs are not science.

You seem to have great difficulty separating what you believe.…from what you have actual evidence for.

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Where is your evidence that proves life doesnt exist in the Universe?

You’re the one who is saying that life doesn’t exist in the Universe. Prove it. You cant use the lack of evidence of aliens not existing, based on a popular sentiment as proof.

Why dont you gather a million supporters, build rockets that are able to travel to different planets, and then conduct research to prove life doesnt exist.

Because as it stands. your proof is merely a belief that you dont have any evidence to support.

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Nope…I never made any such claim. If you were competent enough to grasp the point Professor Kipping makes in the OP, you’d realise that the point being made is that nobody has ANY idea what the chances of life are. That means all those claims that there ‘must’ be other life out there are bogus…because they are not based on any actual empirical data. Hell…we don’t even know how life got started on Earth, let alone on other planets.

Nowhere have I said there is no other life out there, and neither has Prof Kipping. The point Kipping makes, and which is a proper mathematical analysis, is that there is no basis for insisting there ‘must’ be other life, because the odds against life may be larger than the number of stars in the universe. Nobody knows ! People like Neil DeGrasse Tyson pretend they do…on populist media shows…but if you actually cornered him for a true scientific response he’d say ‘nobody knows’ too.

And that is the true scientific status of exobiology. Nobody has ANY idea what the frequency of other life is out there. As such, Professor Kipping is quite right to argue that we may be alone. He is not saying we definitely are…he is saying there is no evidence to support people claiming there ‘must’ be other life.

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That is not how science works…despite you repeatedly trying to railroad it.

If you claimed ghosts exist, it is not the job of science to ‘prove they don’t exist’. The scientific default is that it is 100% up to anyone claiming the existence of something to prove its existence. For you to go round shouting ’ you can’t prove they don’t exist’ is just utter BS as science doesn’t have to.

This is a very basic tenet of science. You cannot claim to be arguing scientifically and ignore it.

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Nope. Kipping is a populist generalist and nothing more.

Science is not Yes or No answers, because such answers do not define the rest of the Universe. You continue to claim alien life does not exist on in the Universe because alien life doesnt fall into a scientific model of being testable, therefore in your mind alien life does not exist and therefore anyone who believes in alien life existing outside of Earth is wrong.

The fact is, the Earth is 46 billion light years from the center of the Universe. To claim that life, other than life on Earth does not exist between Earth and the center of the Universe is extremely big headed like Neil DeGrasse Tyson said.

Scientists, like Kipping, have an ego problem, an ALA, problem of always having to be correcr, which 95% of the time, the knowledge that Kipping has and uses comes from someone else, just like you do.

I don’t need to provide evidence for my belief in E.T.'s, not one little bit, because the simplest probability mechanics proves that life exists in the Universe other than Earth.

Saying that aliens don’t exist because aliens cant be proven to exist using the scientific method is the same thing as not believing in aliens.

Scientists who don’t have any faith and take leaps into the unknown are not scientists at all, they are book worms who can only repeat and use the same process, over and over again and hope nothing changes to make them wrong.

So, how did life on Earth get 46 billion years from the center of the Universe? 46 billion light years is a hell of a long way.

Did life just mysteriously, puff into being on Earth? No, life was carried to Earth from distant sources where other life will be present as well. Not like human life, most definitly not because each planet would have evolved diffrently. Is it okay to believe ib God and Creation and Science as well. It sure is.

Because if Mom and Dad created me and so forth back to the very first humans, then who, how, when, where and why were the first two humans created?

Who created that who created that who created humanity?

Science is about asking questions, not limiting ones self to meaningless scientific methods that are limited by human engineering of mechanical machines and the fear of being wrong.

Prove how life came to Earth and then disprove that life cannot exist in the rest of the universe.

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If you claimed ghosts exist, it is not the job of science to ‘prove they don’t exist’. The scientific default is that it is 100% up to anyone claiming the existence of something to prove its existence. For you to go round shouting ’ you can’t prove they don’t exist’ is just utter BS as science doesn’t have to.

Science doesnt have to prove something exists? But you stated aliens can’t possibly exist because science hasnt proven aliens exist.

You’r using rhetoric altara. Baiting and spinning.

I exist, therefore I have the intellect and faith to understand that life in the Universe does in facr exist.

If humanity didnt exist, then who would ask the questions?

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Ready for the kill shot Altara?

From a discussion with Altara

The fact that NASA has proven life existing in the Universe is quite clear, the Goldilocks or Habitable Zone of a star is the only location that humanoid like life and other life can exist in on a planet. - Proven

The Earth is 46 billion light years from the center of the Universe - Proven

The Earth at one time did not have life on it and was a sphere of molten metal that life could not have existed on until the Earth cooled down. I take that back. Scientists found that spores heated to temperatures up to and including 420°C could germinate and grow. However, spores heated to 430°C or higher could not. “As far as we know, spores of B. amyloliquefaciens are the most high-temperature resistant spores studied so far,” says Beladjal. - Proven

For the first few hundred million years new Earth was remarkably hot (“Hadean Earth”) with temperatures averaging around 80°C at 4.5 billion years ago (Kasting & Ackerman 1986). Reference: Rhawn, J. - Proven

With that being said, ‘spores’ able to withstand extreme temperatures up to 420c would have been formed at the moment of the Big Bang and then travelled across the Universe until the segments of molten rock collided, began spinning and eventually formed a planet. Thus the possibility of life existing elsewhere in the Universe is 100%. - Proven

Now back to the Habitable Zone. Earth resides in the Sol habitable zone of our star which is the reason why life evolved on Earth the way life did after God and Creation came into being after escaping the Big Bang. Any other habitable planet in the Universe that is within the Goldilocks Zone will never be the same as any other planet in the Universe. The simple reason being is the random variable of axial spin, tilt revolution, etc. If a habitable planet is one million miles closer to the sun, then life would have evolved differently, just like life would have evolved differently if the habitable planet was 1 million miles farther away from the sun. - Proven

In both cases the alien life might look similar to humanity but would be quite different. The scientific method of proving life exists in the Universe would never be needed, because if a human ever did encounter an alien on Earth, the human’s sight and smell organs would instantly identify the humanoid looking species as not being human based on the smell.

The chemicals we breathe in activate a certain combination of these receptors , creating the perception of a specific smell. Therefore, when chemicals excreted by an alien’s species are smelled, the perception of the specific DNA related smell would not be recognizable and would therefore set off evolutionary fight or flight alarms. - Proven.

So while teams of scientific method big brains are debating whether or an alien is an alien, my good old olfactory senses that have been passed onto me by my ancestors for millions of years, traits that have been carried from the center of the Universe prove that I am correct - Proven

THIS is Eve.

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Nope, the only person with an ego problem is the person I have finally decided to block as arguing with Dunning Kruger syndrome is about as futile as it gets. Goodbye.

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Is that all you can do is throw Dunning Kruger shade when you know you’re wrong?

Oh by the way, YOU can’t block any one the Eve Online forums. AND this discussion is going to every major news outlet in America.

Defend yourself.

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I can block so I don’t have to read the utter drivel that you post. Maybe when you have progressed beyond kindergarten level science…I might read your posts again ! Until then, it hurts my head trying to work out how someone can know soooo little yet pretend to be so clever.

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No, you can’t block my posts. Everything that I have posted has come from NASA discoveries and basic chemistry and biology.

Empty 55 gallon tear bucket. The aliens need to drink and be hydrated.

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Udder Drivel?

Need milked?