Gallente reckons: damp the targets lock to zero and fly away if things go wrong Minmatar reckons: pin the targets speed to zero and fly away if things go wrong Amarr reckons: suck the targets cap to zero and fly away if things go wrong
Caldari reckons: mmm what a tasty bird for my killboard
There was an idea post ages ago suggesting used a strength vs strength design.
Where ships would have to role designed for ECM and ECCM roles.
This would mean frigates would have to have massive fitting requirement to gain the ECM strength to take on Cruisers or larger, or fleet to pool their strength against a larger target, but would gain the full stacking penalties.
So two frigates could win against a destroyer, but fail against a cruiser, but add two more frigates and the have a better chance, but would fail against a protected cruiser.
They’d have no show against battleships, and a minor chance against weak fitted battlecruiser if there were enough frigates to still gain a bonus.
And of cause larger the ECM ship the larger its target.
So, I was worried that this whole “you can target the people jamming you” thing would mean I use ECM a lot less but, it’s still pretty effective at range so I was wrong about that for sure. But their use cases are much more specific than other recons.
The point that Shadowlance made about Caldari recons just being squishy without the means to protect themselves is valid; they have little tank and their EWAR does not help them avoid trouble, they just become targets. Their only option to avoid certain death is to stay the heck out of range.
A bonus to either burst jammers or ecm drones would change that, they’d at least have some means of running off just like other recons. If not that… they need some more tank to stay alive for more than five seconds.
See, I think we actually want the same thing done to the other recons. So damps don’t stop them locking back at range, just from locking everyone else, etc.
Then recon ships as a whole could get a tank buff if needed, but making one factions ships much better isn’t the way forward to balance.
Maybe not but giving the Falcon and Rook a slight range bonus would help.
The Caldari recons and the Blackbird would also benefit from a slightly better capacitor to help positioning at mwd speed.
Speaking of the Blackbird and to an extend the Scorpion, I would like to suggest giving both either another launcher or turret hard-point.
Just the hard-point to mount them, they already have the slots to fill them.
The Blackbird is the most sad disruption cruiser with the lowest possible firepower in the game and neither the Blackbird, nor the Scorpion will brake triglavian Online if they would get those mounts.
I’ve given up on ECM for solo brawlers and with most long range ECM as well - not enough cap to kite & no tank to handle fast cruisers burning out to get you.
I never fit ECM on my Rook any more. I’m using it to go into wormholes and hack relic sites, at least get something from the only bonus left that works, not being seen on Dscan. That’s PVE only tho, no PVP with it any more.
Go through any recommended abyssal fits, remove one mid slot module to replace with a sensor booster + ECCM - it will be to slow, have too little tank or not apply enough dps to survive.
Then think non-eccm fitted ship 1v1 a rook in the arena …oh the tears
PvP in EVE doesn’t revolve around the Abyss, in fact the Abyss needs to be removed because it is instanced and EVE is a sandbox.
And even tough the original Dev Blog was a whine, we all know they Fed over EVE PvP to suit the Abyss, which is just reason #54309673540360754364840589 to remove the Abyss.
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Not too mention the idea that you have to do PvE rooms to get to a PvP match is just plain dumb and these fitting issues are only symptoms of that mistake, not reasons to make more mistakes.
Before drugs and implants. Nothing Faction / Purple.
500dps ship with dual webs and a >1k dps tank with XL-ASB that provides 45k eHP on top of your 16k eHP base.
It competes with a Cerberus in performance and just doesn’t have the 15 second invulnerability button.
Cerberus is a little faster but the Rook is “stealthy”.
Rook gets better application (dual webs) but the Cerberus gets better projection.
Rook is also cheaper.
