ofc they do ^^
They just cant handle the truth in this case.
Yes für complete new charaters few hours old or so, when you dont know anything.
But soon you leave “save Space” it turns arround very quick.
Yes, its a stupid system. But not half as stupid as losing faction status for podding a suspect. I mean, you can destroy someone’s 500m ISK ship and lose no status…but destroy 10K worth of pod and you lose status if that person is part of a faction. Penalised for legitimately shooting a criminal. I mean…just how stupid is that ? Especially given that it is not always easy to avoid podding a suspect, as one might not get a lock on them until someone else has already destroyed their ship…and you have to be watching carefully to notice that your lock ( when you do get it ) is now on a pod.
Stupid system.
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I stopped reading the rest after this. 
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I have bad edencom standings.
Repairing those standings is a PITA.
The ‘easy’ part of not being bothered by Edencom and Trigs I meant is that everyone starts neutral.
Only after aggressing either side will you get shot by them. That’s a choice some of us made.
I tried once to see if I could recover those standings, but quickly stopped as:
- it takes a bit of time
- it might be that I kill Edencom again in the future, making the efforts now moot
- I don’t get bothered by Edencom at all much. I think I got shot at once while warping from a gate.
For people who do wish to get neutral to Edencom again the option is there.
And as Geo shared earlier grinding standings in this case isn’t about killing as many drones as possible, but about killing once every tick, preferably a large target.
I think it’s a great way to get people into Pochven.
Who doesn’t want to hunt standing grinders?
because the “standing grinders” as you put only require to target paint one sleeper, warp off, wait that an npc or player destroy it and receive the neutral standing from both faction.
If EDENCOM was removed from the game entirely we wouldnt lose any content of value.
You’d think that after all this time the various Empire Factions would’ve upgraded the defenses surrounding their warp gates.
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I’d think after all this time the Empires would have launched a campaign to retake Pochven.. I mean, they were surprised the first time, but they control thousands of solar systems. If they join forces and mass fleets, they could invade the Pochven systems with ten- or hundredthousands of ships, obliterating any Triglavian outpost or settlement by sheer power or numbers. Yes, the trig-ships are better on their own, but they are not so much better that they could hope to fight 1:10 outmatched.
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But they still can’t curb local chat in Jita…
What a coincidence that Edencom ships blap a Triglavian ship. 
I mean, to end up negative with edencom you have to have actively destroyed edencom ships, so that sounds like the consequences of your own actions?
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Very true. But also, what a huge pain having EDENCOM fortresses gate you in. I cant move most of my ships from Gallente to Amarr highsec because of a two system bottleneck that shows no signs of ever being removed.
Have an alt move your ships, either one by one or with a bowhead.
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Way to dangerous für HS Gankers.
Real PvP can happend there..
And as we know HS ganker are the Miners of PvP.
Real New Eden Pvpers are so rare. I had seen just rare special elite one in eve forum and his Solo. If i ever see him in space. i’ll just try to run. 
I wish I could do real PvP.
All I can do is Highsec PvP, which is basically just PvE!
That’s kind of insulting to the NPCs, they at least react while most of your targets are AFK. 
My targets are bots, so it literally is PVE.
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