Enough with the intel warning programs

Well you and I both know that when I called you out for liking your own alts post, you removed the like. I know this forum is your life so whatever I don’t really care. The alt is 100% yours though sadman. You can call me stupid if it makes you feel better about your tragic existence, I don’t mind.

i just keep flagging.

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Why didn’t I think of that… I hit the daily limit before hitting the bottom of this thread, though.

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This thread should go back on topic.

Intelbots are a cancer. when they can use them, we should use them in highsec as well. it’d make up for the uselessness of locator agents.

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Majority of you are acting as if you are children fresh out of School. Stop Attempting to abuse the Reporting system to get a message deleted simply because it disagrees with you.

No Action has been taken on this thread.

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Let’s get back on the subject please and add constructive contributions

I think there are 2 things which you appear to have an issue with:

a. Organised Intel networks.
b. Automated Intel Bots.

I dont think you can do anything about a. people will use whatever tools they have available, either in-client or out… its part of the way the various social groups organise themselves within the game… its a warning from one group that something is happening… be that in the form of a flashing icon and sound on a website or app or someone shouting on mumble/discord/TS; these are social responses to someone invading “their” space

With regards to the bots, I’m not personally aware of any however if you are; just report them/the software and any suspected users to CCP, this stuff is already against the eula’s however given the nature of the bots they may actually be quite hard to detect as they might not directly interact with the client, just monitor it…

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Wow, I didn’t realise null sec was so soft. Do people always dock up automatically?

If they are in PvE fit/Mining ships and learn about the presence of a potential hostile which may be a cyni for even bigger fleet? Why wouldn’t they?

The time taken to fund a replacement ship+fit is longer than the time taken to dock and wait for the neutrals to move on elsewhere.

Not fighting is the smart economic decision. It’s better to do this by a huge margin, so much so that it’s basically a non-choice.

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Boring the hunters to death via content denial is also a time proven tactic.

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Intel warning programs need to go, yes. But null local is fine the way it is. If you don’t want to appear in local, go hunt in wormholes.

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For almost 2500 years in fact. A considerable portion of the art of war is dedicated to the value of avoiding a battle.

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I would argue your point but perhaps not would be a better path.

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If you can link me to an example of a program that does this I’d be happy to take it to CCPs security team to get a determination on whether that’s botting or not, as that sounds like it’s getting to the very edge of it (automating gameplay of Intel gathering by scanning local is sketchy, collating Intel gathered by players less so).

Perhaps that in and of itself is the problem here, that the most ratted space is likely to be the least profitable to roam - unless using very dedicated hunting tactics.

I’d like to see local like wh space in nullsec

I’d like to see cynos like in Nullsec in WH space

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The use of created text files to warn individuals would be very difficult to ‘ban’.

You are not modifying the client by reading the text file output of a program and therefore are not in breach of any aspect of the End User License Agreement.

Inside the world of software engineering you cannot make reading of textual log files ‘illegal’. You must be modifying the client itself.

Crowd Control Productions would need to either stop outputting this information, or keep it inside the client.