Eve do not forget your new players

That is really not true.

I never played WOW and the first time I saw someone using “keK” I simply searched on google, to find out what it means.

This statement is just as dumb as saying: You can only recognize a cat, if you you ever owned one yourself!"

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Eve was always about maintaining a fine balance between emerging and different populations of New Eden in order to have a functioning long-term game and economy.

A streamlined, singleminded and instant Eve PvP Arena is not the way to go Im affraid, unless you want this game to properly implode.

ah here, leave it out. :slight_smile: so everyone else who has access to the internet can’t know what it is.

that’s funny :rofl:

knowing and using it are 2 different things and WOW players tend to use it :wink:

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Don’t listen to anyone, buy a couple plexs from CCP with this grub stake you will be able to get a foot hold in the game.

I started in 03 and worked my way up, but that took a long time, but so was every one else, I wouldn’t try to start that way now.

You have to scrap your way up, that’s the fun part, don’t take risks if you don’t have to, and find a group to start with, the safety in herds shouldn’t be underestimated, EVE is full of wolves looking for strays and the sick, don’t be a victim.

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For new players, if new players can’t do level 4 missions to buy a new battleship or new skill, this is the biggest problem for new players.

So it would be very nice if ccp removes ban on alpha state level 4 missions.
So even new alpha state players can team up with fleet and do level 4 missions with battlecruisers and buy a battleship with isk they earn from level 4’s.

Is doing “level 4 missions to buy a new battleship or new skill” the only option you have?

TRUST

It’s not clear to me what you’re trying to say, but I suspect you’ve managed self-parody.

A hint: I didn’t write “/kek” in my earlier post as a way to obscure whether I or not I have ever played WoW. I doubt even one of your fellow Amphiprioninae would do such a thing.

Not really. My 13yo daughter used it couple times and this made me know this word.

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/sigh.

I didn’t expect to trap so many idiots. Though your name suggests you might have an excuse. Can I expect a visit from your friend the milliner?

You’re only fooling yourself thinking you’ve fooled anyone.

“Kek” is a meme. It’s a meme, because millions of WoW players spread it. It reached far beyond wow,
including the rap scene, and is often wrongly attributed to the alt-right. Redditors also were all over it.

That’s dozens of millions of people, which means you’re a clueless, ignorant asshole.
Once again, as usual.

At least learn to use google and put some effort into it.

exactly :wink:

I’d like to point out that the OP does not have a single kill …
… ZERO …
… with 41 losses.

Another player hitting a wall because he’s following elena’s idea of grind first, fun later.

Team up with an omega then.

Same here.

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Please. It’s NOT Elena’s idea.

It’s a carebear’s idea. It’s what carebears have been poisoning new players with in rookie corps since probably ever. It’s also what CCP talks about when people drop out of the game after “levelling their ravens”.

Elena is a carebear.
It’s not her idea.

Carebears do not understand how bad it is to spoil people,
because carebears are spoiled, bubble wrapped brats themselves.

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Bolocks, bollocks, bollocks, bollocks. Thousands of players have shown this is utter :notes: beeep :notes:. It is loser talk.

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You “fishboys” are confused as usual - this time you’re reversing cause and effect
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc)

EVE’s new players are guided away from normal play (even normal EVE PvE play), into “pure PvE” activities by the few structured activities they’re exposed to, and the advice they receive.

When they point out the natural consequences of this in the forum, they meet the “bittervet narrative”, which is all about victim blaming.

Note that they’re not victims of ganking, even if it’s done by griefers. They are the victims of what’s possibly the worst new-player guidance in gaming.

No kills, only losses.
Even appears to have recycled his character once.

More bollocks.

There are no victims outside of your imagination. Everyone is responsible for himself and hundreds of thousands of people before are proof that it works. I disagree with your victim creation paranoia.

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