I am fine with that.
Me too. Itâs fair game.
People who apparently see huge issues in others, who actually try to play the game with others (even when itâs taking/stealing âtheirâ â â â â ), usually are the same people who cry âthink of the childrenâ.
As he stated that ninja salvagers are a âhuge detrimentâ, I am convinced that they are a âhuge issueâ for him, making him a worthless farmer in my eyes.
Nonetheless ⌠new players most likely will find their ways into making money that way. When itâs dangerous by default, being suspect isnât that much of a problem anymore.
No the issue is that short of making a âsuicide gankerâ alt there is no recourse to the ninja looters
So I say if I canât beat em, join em. Why wait for numbers, logi, run a doctine fit that I need to move around.
I need 1.5mil of probe and a burner toon.
âHigh end PvEâ
Thatâs not an issue, unless you only ever care about yourself. The laws that âprotectâ people from gankers are the same laws that âprotectâ ninja salvagers. Lore dictates that wrecks are nothing but space litter owned by nobody. Therefore, if the player has a problem with that, the player has to put law into his own hands.
Might makes Right.
And yeah, well, it is high end PvE.
Itâs more multifacetted than in other games.
In other games you canât even steal â â â â , how stupid is thatâŚ
Its ONLY high sec so take that multifacteted crap and stuff if there there no low sec invasions.
Oh well, sorry, I didnât know youâre one of those guys.
Still, kudos for you doing the smart thing and joining the wolves,
instead of just whining about them like some trash people around here.
I can already say with a degree of certainty that they are having a very negative impact to many players.
Immersion wise would dictate that the most logical place to invade would be Low Sec space. Itâs rich in resources and a foothold can be easily gained there due to lack of protection.
Having the invasion start in High Sec doesnât make any sense at all. The Trigs havenât been studying Empire space like the Drifters have so Trigs invading and attacking in High Sec space is just plain stupid.
Obviously CCP has lost touch with Eve Lore. They must be deaf, dumb and blind if they think this expansion will make High Sec players move into Low Sec space.
I really can not understand why each time you add something new to the game, always changing something proven to be nice, fun and works well, instead of creating the new content to works properly with the things we already have.
Leave incursions alone!
If you want to attract more players to the new stuff, make it bether than existed one.
Stop being superficial and and solving your problems in the way:
We gonna add new ship.
OK, we gonna nerf all other ships, to be balanced to the new one.
Will wait for all chapters to play out.
So far reward isnât good enough,if I consider price of ships I am using I will grow old and die before I hit positive balance.
-Adding ninja looters into mix doesnât help
-Faction npc doesnât respond to new AI
-New AI doesnât interact with other AI at all
-Since Concord is useless with these visually removing them of gates could help immersion.
Not too hot for kitchen sink fleets that are forming about but want to do larger trig waves so I hope my old crew get on it or dedicated group formsâŚ
Either way rewards arenât there for it to happen.
Edit
Instead out right nerfing incursion force spawns inside trig ones make blue bar harder to grind and drone debuffs will make rattle boxers cry but ppl will be there and they can decide to spend some time doing new ones for shange.
You are not right. They studied.
The game took a terrible turn with this.
Bring back Incursion spawn rate please.
Having issues with the market page. When I select view market details from an item its opening to that market item as normal, but also opening it in the search menu. After setting many buy and sell orders the search menu is just full of open categories. Takes some time to close them all if I actually need to use the search.
If this feature is intended can we get an option to turn it off please.
For those frustrated by it, switch to the quick bar tab when you dont need the search tab and it wont open to all those categories.
Um, is that CCPâs plan -to nerf incursions and hope most that stop running them transition to the new content? After all, CCP did recently nerf nullsec anomaly respawns in an attempt to deal with that isk faucet.
And itâs hard to argue with that logic when considering the health of the economy. From that perspective, my only counter is NIMBY⌠er, NIMIF -Not In My Isk Faucet. BuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutâŚ
That being said, incursions are more than just an isk faucet -they are the reason my community exists. And Iâm suddenly starting to grow worried that if things donât change relatively soon, it will cease to exist as I know it.
For those that donât know, WTM is a newbro friendly community. This is not only reflected in our fit and skill requirements, but also our rules and how we treat other players. For example, if we have a spot for a DPS ship open up, and we have 7 meta-blaster fit rokhs ahead of a blinged out Vindi that does 2500 dps, weâll take every single one of those Roks before we let that vindi in fleet. We donât do it because weâre idiots who donât understand how to get a better isk efficiency. We do it because we want to. We do it because one of our core values is to be inclusive. Indeed, this was recently affirmed by our community in a discussion over a proposal to add a skill check requirement.
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âWe are a community that prides itself on its openness. this goes against that.â
-Juan C. M. -
âFC here. Iâd serious consider leaving if this proposal passed as written⌠As others pointed out, it goes totally against everything WTM has always stood for.â
-Lord S. -
âCherry picking pilots has long been against the core concept of WTMâŚâ
-Maximus A.
Of course, our inclusiveness has had the advantage of helping us to grow into the largest incursion community, but it does come with a downside. Namely, we are seriously disadvantaged when it comes to contests. We have dealt with this by trying to holding our ground when contested (and occasionally pulling a rabbit out of our hat) and by trying to keep our distance from those who would like to exploit us in order to increase their own isk efficiency.
As you can imagine, this is a serious issue if the focos spawn rate remains nerfed. Not only do we have extreme difficulty winning contests and often get boxed into running TPPHâs (the slowest/less lucrative sites), but we also have to deal with TDF popping moms prematurely so that they can get a new spawn when they want it. Thus, we just wonât be able to continue as is. Weâll have to become another elitist community in an attempt to out-compete them, dissolve, or maybe, if they donât turn out terrible, get into Triglavian Invasions.
Iâm not going to throw a fit or quit playing. Iâll fall back on my other isk making activities, and keep on trucking. But Iâll also be saddened to see an amazing and inclusive community be perverted or destroyed.
Meh. Hopefully, Iâm just being paranoid.
The game took a terrible turn with this.
Bring back Incursion spawn rate please.
I am paying for my gameplay, why is ccp forcing me stopping it ?
In your fantasy world you are paying for your gameplay.
In reality you are paying for a service.
The producers may change that service in any way they see fit.
Your, or anyoneâs individual agreement, is neither required nor asked for.
If you donât agree with the service provided, then you know what to do.
I remember the first time Incursions got nerfed.
How is friendship related to income?
Is your post telling me that Incusrioneers are all about the community,
as long as itâs worth the income?
Isnât that seriously contradictionary?
Not very likely that CSM will be interested, look at the CSM composition.
Zoltan
Please no?
You are just telling them that they should change eve to a 1 dimensional game with no options to choose from like most of those other games out there?