EVE Vanguard Panel Notes & Discussion

“Who said anything about needing to reassign skillpoints ?”

What is the interest ?

“a separate executable launched”

Technically it will be 2 entities. Hence the need to create a dedicated character.

“Vanguard character can be played simultaneously” “a separate executable launched”

It’s also what allows you to play 1 EvE clone & 1 Vanguard clone together.

“upcoming FPS module”

Module or game in its own right?

Reserved for EvE players (module) ? or able to accommodate Vanguard players only (game) ?

Without a response, we stir up wind. :roll_eyes:

“Vanguard player only” is most likely. Also the most profitable for CCP. That’s what I understood from the start.

No, because its related to actual stuff in space

Why would i have to train up skills to use my OWN NAME in vanguard?

There should be absolutely ZERO reason why i should have to create a new character for something in the SINGLE UNIVERSE model CCP themselves made

Right but who cares that its a different .exe?

Is it or is it not taking place in the same universe as TQ? if the answer is yes then CCP’s only excuse is being lazy or unskilled enough to make it work

If no then i have zero interest in it, the whole point of the shooter is to be part of the game

Not sure what this has to do with me being unable to use my name, i don’t need to play both at the same time, i want to be able to have a single legacy spanning all parts of this SINGLE UNIVERSE

Take the lore and shove it up an avatars docking port for all i care

Not sure how you’re working that out, if i can’t use my EVE name in the game then i have no interest in playing the game and any potential sales they would have made from me are now zero

It makes zero business sense to make that choice if they actually genuinely think vanguard is going to be a serious addition to the game, because you WANT players to engage with it

Because you need to use a different kind of clone than capsuleers normaly use. It’s new technology to us.

Now it seems CCP decided capsuleers are too pansy to bear the brunt of using a warclone :wink:

Agree :slight_smile:

Stop spouting lore reasons please, nobody cares about that ■■■■

Don’t call yourself nobody :slight_smile: You are some body… a capsuleer body. Do you question that?

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Yes i do because i’m a player, i think you seem to be lost the in-character forum is a different area

Look, I don’t insist on those warclone skills, ok? Since I am into lore obviously, that’s what naturally came to me as a possible approach to CCP.

As I responded to you in the other thread I get it lore is at the bottom :slight_smile: And I am ok with that.

I’ve updated my OP in that petition with a disclaimer saying this is one of the possibilities to bridge the character gap between EVE Online & EVE Vanguard.

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Right but rather than giving them lore excuses to fix something how about instead just telling them they need to fix it for actual gameplay reasons and sales reasons?

We shouldn’t be throwing them a bone on this, CCP should be striving to do good by us instead of us suggesting compromises, the issue exists both ways because someone who starts with vanguard and then wants to transition to EVE will be stuck in the exact same boat and what you’re proposing would mean having to train infomorph skills on both sides incase someone wants to play both games which, IMHO, would be 100% unacceptable and defeats the point of having a single universe

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Add your suggestion and your stance on this to the petition please :slight_smile:

What petition? I think you already know where we stand on trying to roleplay in FPS while pretending to be in 4th person prospective.

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That one…

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We must land on Vanguard. Nothing must stop us! Nothing…. Understand Commander?

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The pod doesn’t just make it so we can be cloned when we die, it is also how we control our ship. By making capsuleer brain data be able to be loaded into warclone bodies would make it so we will have to have crews on our ships, and a lot more people to clone when we get blown up

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Not necessary so. We are in essence a pure digitalized consciousness an infomorph. We could use any computing platform other than biological tissue if tech would allow it.

Imagine being that pure thought inside a supercomputer housed in a pod and stearing an entire ship. Being that ship… That tech will come one day you will see :slight_smile: But for now it is cheaper to just cram us into brains…

Crew don’t have access to cloning tech lol

That is one solution

Edit: but even if they only need to clone one or two people, that is still inefficient compared to current methods

If you were a corporation, would you rather:
A) clone one person, and only lose a ship, modules, ammo, and any important assets on the ship when it gets blown up
Or
B) clone one or two people, lose between 5 and 1000 people, a ship, modules, ammo, and any important assets when it gets blown up

I am pretty sure option a is cheaper

Except larger ships still have crews canonically

A capsule can only replace so much and the day to day operations on anything bigger than a destroyer require crew to be present, so those guys are dying regardless :stuck_out_tongue:

Eh, whatever

According to a 2007 forum post, a Raven at that time had a crew of 7400

So basically… if i filament out to null with the intention of inevitably losing my ship to the powers that be via ESS robbery or what have you… I’m effectively a mass murderer.

That’s pretty brutal