Either fix mining or watch EvE die slowly, the amount of isogen needed to make stuff shouldn’t cost more to buy than purchasing the ship itself it’s upsidown, you wonder why you keep losing numbers MAKE IT FUN AGAIN QUIT CRAPPING ON THE MINERS that is all.
Oh, and the microtransactions are ruining the game, dont be Call of duty and sell us pretty stuff and not fix any of the mechanics till everyone leaves.
work as intented !
every game has to die at some point … maybe now its the time ? or maybe youre just another doombringer prophet and eve exists the next 20 years xD
fun is what ever you do with your decisions xD nothing else …
no they are keep running the game …
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The question is, why are you buying Isogen instead of mining it? I already know the answer to that, of course, I just want to hear you say it…
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I’ve been putting up buy orders for four million Isogen a week since forever.
No real rise or drop in how much I’ve paid per buy order over that time. Always between 1.7 to 1.9 billion ISK.
As I’m feeling pedantic tonight, I’ll just say that you don’t mine the stuff. You refine it from the ore you mine that contain it.
Mr Epeen 
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Isn’t that your responsibility? Why is it up to CCP to manage your emotions?
I fail to see how any of that is “crapping” on the miner. Please, elaborate.
Odd you should bring this up. Recently in the game, I took a new player in to show him the ropes. Now all he wants to do is build ships! I am trying my best to explain it to him without resorting to spreadsheet violence, mining and selling the raw materials more than equals the cost of buying one ship.
I pointed out the Caracal as an example, would have to sell 7 to 8 just to cover the one time purchase of the blueprint. The material cost of building the ship, assuming you are willing to mine it, would have enough market value to just buy one of the many ships for sale. He failed to see my point and said they are offering 13 million at Jita for them. I gave up and just going to assume he will either have fun doing it or live and learn.
@Vladimierr Mining isn’t the problem. I make enough mining to afford ships. What you are talking about here is the market and economy. Players are in charge of the supply and demand. Someone in there is demanding a lot of materials and I am supplying them. The big omega producers of ships are corporations in Null Sec. They blow up their ships and crank them out. If they want to pay more for materials than the value of their ships, who am I to say no?
I don’t sell isogen as that costs more to refine and loses value over selling them the raw kernite. I suggest you take in some YouTube videos about ship producion, if you plan to make a career of it.
Fly safe o7
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MRGA - Make Rorquals Great Again! 
That’s not a CCP issue, that’s probably a “miners can’t do maths” issue and potentially a “git gud” issue. If other miners build&sell stuff below cost it’s either because they don’t care or they’re such NPC they don’t even realise.
An activity doesn’t get more fun if it pays more, the activity is the same. If you don’t enjoy mining go find another play style.
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This. Peoples crying about something not being fun because it doesn’t net them as big profit as it used to are really pathetic and never did that activity for fun in the first place.
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has nothing to do with profit ( for me ). games change life changes i get it. You used to be able to make ships and blow them up and not worry about how am i going to replace it is all im saying guys. Has nothing to do with iskis to me, I want to fly a ship and not go broke replacing it, it’s that simple. Even a simple battleship now is a pain in the butt to source materials for and make… we used to blow those up for fun! Now it’s such a pain in the arse you’re like OH NO, everyone feels it man how could you not? How are new players supposed to get into the game when you compound things and make them so complicated people don’t even wanna try?
Wrong game then.
Then fly cheap ships. A single Miner with an Exhumer can replace a hundred frigates a day.
Yes, put the game behind paywalls, awesome solution. So i have to spend money on plex to buy stuff is what they want, sell the game back to the people who will take care of it.
You can tell the people who have capitals and supers are the ones saying too bad, I got mine haha.
When the game was flush with them, was 2 bil for a thanatos, now it’s 5+ and forget a super unless you OG rich.
Your rant doesn’t even make a sense. If isogen is more expensive, then you should earn more with mining if you mine something you can reprocess isogen from.
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Thank you for being someone who replied to me for real btw. The point is to get new players to mine that stuff and the prices will drop, it’s why eve had low prices for a long time we had an influx of new players because the end game ships were attainable. Now unless you’re part of GOON or FRAT, it’s almost impossible to make this stuff without a TON of money or a crap ton of time. Then you get blown up in 2 minutes and you spend 3 months building a ship??? come on man that is just a money and time sink it’s no longer a game.
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Okay buddy, move on if you don’t wanna hear what I have to say, my concerns are real. Ive been here long enough to remember 50k+ subs. Don’t sit here and tell me the changes work because they are hurting the game.
a) The Nerf after Nerf of RORQUAL
First of all : Yes the first change of rorqual made it too strong (and yes if you make the analysis I have explained before … it has been less stronger from conception).
But the problem of iteration Nerf is twice on rorqual : The first and the easier to see, when people invest to make a ship… and you Nerf it every 3 to 6 months’ people start to think you just want to take their money in investor/extractors and Nerf to force they change.
The second and for me the more important : During your change you have totally forgotten by over nerfing something you kill gameplay who are near like excavator stealers (Hi olmeca Gold).
So by over nerfing and iterate on Nerf you have reduced gameplay style and upset again and again some player who has accumulated bitterness against CCP , and so they could think to go to a game that change is sometimes more “radical” but better explain, better think and not have the impress of waste their time.
Another person who feels what I am talking about BTW.