So are pirate ships.
If a I want to respec racial ship angle out there…if you get lucky your new fotm race is on a nice pirate boat you have 1 race already lol. 2 for the price of one! Barring cutting edge isk/hour need or picky as hell crews…even 4/4 race skilll works well enough on these.
Totally confused with what you said about 4/4 as race use to matter in the past.
Perhaps I should just go back and read.
If you get lucky…you have 1 race at 4. Just need the other to 4 to be functional for pirates.
Caldari to gallente (or vice vers) is a reasonable race change imo. It sets up gurista at the end.
He thinks its unreasonable to have to pay isk to extract skills. He wants a free skill extraction and redistribution.
CCP gives out free skill points all the time.
No carebear needs more free stuff.
I could in jest say for the extraction we bring back how t3 used to run. Die on one…see which skill level is removed.
Technically…a free sp extraction lol.
As chess is played in New Eden to some extent, it is difficult to compare Chess with EveOnline or any game that has updated that delivers more gameplay content.
The board doesn’t change yet New Eden had seen a few changes that suggested we are not meant to play chess inside New Eden.
And it’s only for „think of the newbies“ low-SP pilots… and conveniently, totally coincidentally, it also benefits him and his 30M SP.
Rules kinda changed in Chess with stuff like En Passant.
Yes, he wants it to be as high as 50m sp. You know, just in case he gains a couple million more, but still wants the option to respec his char into a titan down the road, for free.
Ah yes, the proverbial „new player in a Titan“. Why doesn’t anyone think of those players? Oh, the humanity!
I 100% agree, which is why skillpoints for actual new people shouldn’t be a big deal. A couple of extra bonus respecs won’t hurt anybody and if the newblood loses his blingy ship then it’s a nice kill mail for somebody and a good lesson at the same time.
SP is the entire requirement for many ships. New players want to fly stuff, why not make it easier for that to happen?
Most of the complaints I’ve heard weren’t from carebears, but even if they were what’s the big deal? They’d just be in blingier stuff you could gank.
I definitely see points from both sides of this discussion. I am in favor of more respec options for new players, but not free SP reallocation. As usual I think it’s more of a financial concern from CCP’s perspective.
Because you then negate the patience and resolve of all those in the past who didn’t have it easier. Its a slap in the face for all those who stuck with it despite it being a grind.
I hear that the “Princess’ gambit” is an all time favorite in hisec, mostly played around gates.
As the saying goes, “in EvE the players are the content”, which means no slacking allowed and perhaps a few new players needed.
I find it very amusing how fast people shut down something and then try to make fun of people.
I just dropped an idea, of course it needs proper polish before it would be viable. As I’ve stated multiple times I’ve taken the numbers out of my ass.
There’s so many ways to go about it and even the simplest “respec anything under 3m” would be better than what we currently have.
Also people keep mentioning skill extractors and whatnot… I’d argue that you have something wrong with you if you extract skills to inject them back into yourself. People just don’t do that, they extract to sell for isk or whatnot. What I’m suggesting wouldn’t allow you to sell the skillpoints obviously.
After giving it some more thought I think that the best approach would be to have something similar with the attribute respec we have. For example (Again numbers from ass):
Every account has the possibility to reallocate 5m sp.
Once every year you get 1m sp to reallicate (Which doesn’t stack with anthing. So if you have more than 1m left you gain nothing, if you have less you get however much would take you back to 1m)
This way you can’t respec into something ridiculous and is also fair to new and old players alike.
What you dropped is “lets invalidate everything EVE stands for while at the same time cutting into CCP’s profits. And then not just once but on a continuous basis”. The fact that your idea would hurt CCP’s bottom line takes about 2 seconds to figure out, you not giving that any thought means you didn’t do your due diligence (in more ways than one) and as such you get the reactions you deserved.
Onto the basis of the idea: personally I feel that a one-time only 5 mil SP “respec” would make sense in that it allows new players who got to the normal alpha soft cap to reinvent themselves now that they know more about the game, making it more likely for them to be encouraged to keep playing. And since extractors don’t work below 5.5 mil SP these players wouldn’t be using those anyway, so no revenue lost and quite possibly more happy newer players.
It would also help returning players be more incentivised in picking up the game again as “trying cool new stuff” generally is why people return to a game. Given how much SP much older players have it would be a “nice to have” but ultimately a drop in the water especially because their high sp count means they’re already established anyway and I doubt those players would run extractors for those “small corrections”, so nothing much would be lost revenue wise.
I find it amusing that you ignore any counter arguments, let alone think about them or address them.
I find it equally amusing that you ignore solutions that are already available, and that includes training an unlimited number of alpha accounts in parallel and hope “you” like one of them.
To make up for what exactly ? Not liking the game as it is ? Never committing ?
Do you honestly know a single person who’s extracted skills and then injected the LSI back? You’re just much better off buying an LSI instead and injecting more.
And yes I understand there’s ppl who have devoted 20 years of their life to this game and feel like they should have all the fun while others don’t. But I don’t think that it’s healthy for the game itself. It should be easier to spec into something basic, but useful for most aspects of the game faily easily.
To play pvp alone you just need your ship maxed, if you don’t you’ll just lose. And for anyone who wants to say stuff like “better player wins” and so on: Don’t think you can expect new players to be able to compete with established players in experience for them to even have a chance at the “better player wins” argument.
Someone compared to respecing in eve to changing class in wow or something. You see in most classic mmos (all that I’ve played) every class can do every activity to an acceptible level. Sure others are better at it, but you can still be useful. Now I’d like you to make use of a mining barge in abyss or pvp. Yeah, just won’t happen.
I did mention that I have 33m sp and I feel like I have minimal choices of what to fly, but this post wasn’t made about “oh I want this”. More like I just went through a change in my main playstyle on eve and I realized that I can barely contribute to the new one. So I thought how could completely new players even think of trying out new stuff? They’re basically hard locked to the path they choose from the very start when not even understanding the core basics of the game.
The only people that believe this are people that have zero experience PvPing.
It’s quickly proven false.
Not talking about being an f1 monkey
Yet you didn’t even provide an argument against it.
Of course there’s exceptions, there always are. But generally the player with more sp will win given even circumstances in 1v1s
And since we are talking about new players here you can’t really argue that they should outplay the more experienced players with more skillpoints. It’s just not how experience works.
Ever played a game like league? Try putting up a player who’s played for a month vs the average gold player, they’ll get their heads stomped in. And in that game you require much less experience to do well and you don’t have any stat advantage by being an older player.
Yeah some might win, but that’s the exception not the rule.