Free to play not so much?

It would never work…as it would rely on a constant influx of new players all paying to get to some highly skilled level before un-subbing.

I mean? “Huge” such a vague word.

What’s 8-10 hours stretched out over 3 weeks? I have extra ISK. We all have our fancy ships and stuff we buy with our ISK.

I think I only subbed for 3 months all the way back when I started on a different character.

What’s 1.7bil approx to the huge trillionares and people worth 100+ bil? I can’t speak for them and what they do but if I made that amount of ISK personally a month, I wouldn’t even bother plexing.

I guess my point is the 500 plex a month is a drop in the bucket for the really smart people in EVE.

“Smart”? You’re literally converting your playtime to real dollar value at a rate of $2/hour at current sub cost ($20/month).

It’d be more efficient to just get a part time job… literally anywhere… and work for 2 hours/month per account :joy:

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And this is the cornerstone of afk playstyle, once you ask yourself: “Why not both?”.

Honor mention to CCP trying to avoid this with blackout and triglavians, ofc they failed.

It’s sad it took 40 posts, but moving on.

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I’d rather serve at McDonald’s for 2 hours a month than mine 8 to 10 hours and even more in EVE, risk more time and ships/isk, call it a “playstyle” then pretend I like it and all in order to pay 20 for a game subscription. smh

i have to be honest i wish they would go back to a subscription based games when the mrs finds out im paying 300 quid in one hit for my 3 omegas she is going to rage where as she doesnt bat an eyelid about a rolling monthly sub

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It’s all meased up but aren’t we used to it by now?

Perhaps the irony was lost in the mix of posts, and I should have used sarcasm instead :wink:.

Let’s just remind the OP that he’s paying for a service, which stops being delivered once the payment ends.

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That might have been the case before free to play

Currently, you are paying for an advantage

No you’re not. Omega is unchanged.

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More like, you pay for full access.

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Being Omega doesn’t make you a better skilled player.

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What if i already am a skilled player?

Full access to what?

Capitals? No problem

Base speed? Thats called selling advantages

If you were a skilled player you’d know that you can have an Omega character for basically no more cost than an Alpha character.

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Or begging for stuff from a guy who died of cancer.

Thats not an issue. Issue is, an unskilled subed player has an advantage over a skilled unsubed player.

Eve Online forums are not the best place for obituaries

Yes, and also the other way around.

Pretty much everyone in this game has some advantage over another player, yet also a disadvantage. A skilled player in an Alpha ship can take on an unskilled subbed player on an Omega ship and easily win based on skill alone.

But if the skilled player wishes to fly ships that require a subscription, he can easily pay for an Omega subscription for pretty much free if he sacrifices his skill training for it. By using extractors to sell his monthly gained SP as injectors to cover the cost of monthly plex, people with enough skill points to fly the ships they want to fly have an option to be skilled and subbed players for pretty much free.

No. The skill speed for paid subscription is unchanged. It’s still the base speed for paid subscription.

Im not talking about skill training speed, im talking about movement speed. As in, my pod is slower than your pod

Yes the other way around makes the gap is even wider, thats why i cant recommend pvp to newbro alpha players.

There is a pay wall at the begining of the learning curve. I understand that there have to be pay walls in a f2p model but my hope is that with proper rebalancing of the skill requirements for ships and mods we can move that pay wall a bit further down the learning curve.

I’d say that’s debatable.