Also, I don’t gank people. I just don’t get ganked for massively reducing my tank and being sh1t at EVE.
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And also a reduction to base cargo capacity, as with first three added low slots.
If you are okay with even more reduced cargo, fit three bulkheads now.
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So, like I said, you have no success criteria for defining when freighters have been sufficiently buffed. You only have your vague feelings that ganking happens “too often”, and demands for buffs will continue as long as highsec PvP exists at all.
Freighters have long needed a buff.
According to what standards?
You can tank it well, without sacrificing 70% of its effectiveness at its only role.
Alternatively, a well-tanked freighter is the standard and is balanced just fine, but you have the opportunity to gamble and increase cargo capacity up to ~300% at the expense of making yourself more vulnerable to suicide ganks.
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Then fly an orca?
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Really this is just the same old farmer trash whines, only about a different ship this time. The farmer comes up with some theoretical maximum ISK/hour that they could be making if PvP didn’t exist, and anything less than the theoretical maximum is “being unable to do the job” or “massive income nerf” or whatever. It’s all the same story. AFK cloaking needs to be banned because farmers can’t AFK farm with pure PvE fits if there is a name in local, suicide ganking needs to be nerfed because you can’t fly a cargo expanded freighter full of PLEX through the Jita gates without dying, Triglavian NPCs need to be removed because it’s unacceptable to have to fit mining ships for tank instead of maximum yield, etc. The mere fact that compromises have to be made to improve safety is unacceptable, they want 100% safety and maximum ISK no matter what.
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There’s no comparison at all.
100% safety? Nobody is asking for freighters to become immune to weapons.
Freighters receiving a buff won’t stop them from being ganked. But it will reduce the volume of pointless or low value ganks taking place.
Do you really think that people who slap 3x Expanded Cargohold now won’t just install the fourth one after your buff? They will explain that anything else hurts their potential cargo capacity (so it is unacceptable) and will ask for another buff after some time.
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Some will. Some easy ganks still to be had. So what’s your problem with this buff idea?
The problem is that it does not solve the stated problem, which is “it is too easy to gank a freighter optimized for cargo”. Your idea makes it even easier.
If you were really intended to solve this problem, you could propose removing low slots on freighters altogether (and considering they are always filled with Bulkheads). Or at least reducing their number.
They could give freighters an overall buff to all HP too if you think it’s not enough. I just thought it better to give players the option of improved customisation. 3 slots to use and just 1 type of tank mod on the games premier hauling ship is a bit weak.
Freighter is the ship that stands the most to gain from having a damage control unit, with such large structure HP. It’s also meant to be a very important ship. Seems weird that it’s the only ship that cannot fit a damage control.
OK, there is another proposition: add a damage control module specifically for freighters (with high cost to balance out the big advantage of having one). Still does not solve the problem, however.
Just plainly adding more HP is wrong.
They plainly added more HP for orcas. And extra slots for increasing it further. As a result, Orcas are in a good place. Orcas received buffs way beyond this too. CCP went all out on making the Orca into a good ship. Freighters are long overdue for improvement.
You are editing your posts so much it is messing with the layout of the screen now
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Condensing some paragraphs of a just posted comment to be more to the point is a normal thing to do.
If anything thing, this is probably one of the more successful bait posts that I’ve seen so far this month.
No it isn’t. “Normal” is not being this stupid and it is not typing 15 paragraphs then posting it before realising how moronic it makes you look.
Btw - that is astoundingly moronic, just in case you were not aware already.
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So other players are having fun but to you it is pointless and therefore their fun should be ruined.
Possibly a little self centered??
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The thing is, if you can afford a freighter, then you can afford to use a courier service. Paying someone else to haul transfers almost all the risk for a relatively small fee, and frees up your toons to do more profitable activities.
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It’s not fun for the player who lost their expensive ship to a pointless gank. Now if the player was carrying a high value cargo you could say he had it coming and should learn not to carry 5 or 10 billion in a freighter at once. But the guys who carry a lot less or even basically nothing at all. Them being ganked for no reason other than lol’s needs to be made more expensive for the ganker so it happens less.
Don’t force people to play their sandbox your way. They can waste billions of isk per day to stupid ganks if they like it.
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