Correct, meaning that there may be 200% more resources, but we’re wasting half of it, thus the amount of resources is the same.
(Unless you go into higher tier miners and such, but that takes quite a bit of time to achieve)
You mean like T2?
You’re calling T2 unusual?
Seriously?
Or Faction? (lower skill, higher cost)
As a whole i think the changes are good, however the changes that should be there but are not is the Core Temp Regulators needed to build a Capital Regulator is still 250 this should have been halved to 125 as well. Capitals are way too expensive and at present higher costs are because of the Core Temp Regulators. Caps will still not be a viable option to build unless funded by big alliances. so i believe your still on corse to destroy the game and loose a lot more players. I for 1 will still not be resubbing until CCP can go out and mine some brain cells to get this balance right. This is without touching the Bounty Risk Modifier, which is another massive fail. Once isk runs out no more play for me.
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You’re joking right?
This is better to you?
Is the part where t1 bs and factions sub production is now controlled, almost exclusively and as predicted, by the same asshats that have a stranglehold on the t2 market? Or the part where all mining barges and exhumers are essentially the same? Perhaps you enjoy paying 5 times what something is worth? If you’re serious I struggle to find any single thing that is better since this ■■■■■■■■ started. @CCP_Rattati
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Hoi. One quick note.
The Kryos losing over half of its mineral hold due to the shrinkage and the loss of trait bonus is really weird given the compression changes finally gives that ship a reason to live as a cheap way to move moderate amounts of materials without the price hike inherent in new compression.
Instead, we go straight to a DST.
Something should be done to retain a solid option for t1 mineral transport.
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I’m not a fan of the ideas. Instead of specialized ore holds, why not just have Ice, Ore, and Gas just share the ore hold?
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That would make entirely too much sense
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@CCP_Dopamine
Have you failed implementing the bonus for the Procurer and Skiff, notably the 2% reduction in strip miner duration, or did you removed those and failed to update the Info page ?
I like the sounds of these changes.
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You really thought a mining update would actually benefit miners? 
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Who exactly is this better for?
What is the purpose of adding all these “Specialist” hold ORE, ICE, GAS, if they are all the same or similar in capacity?
You want a barge to go mine a belt, swap lasers and keep mining ice, swap and go get gas too? What’s the point???
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you mean have CCP not make things WAY more difficult than they need to…thats a strange sounding concept
I really dont feel like mining needed an overhaul…certainly nothing to this extent.
frankly, if you want new player retention, dont force big groupings.
making a huge blob of friendlies a requirement for bringing out overpriced ships is why most players only fly cheap stuff unless they have the big blob with them
i personally have no opposition to flying solo and hanging out with whoever is in system, but then people show up and shoot me rather than saying hi…even if im selling most of my ores to them, purely for not being part of their particular slice of the blob
hence i run “cheap fit, expected to lose it” style ships and the losses dont hit me that hard…but now if i run T1 everything, i get LESS than i did last week because the double ore amount is halved by my mining it, and then compression for transport actually reduces how much i pulled in
overall, this is terrible
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This treath is such a golden mine of salt and people that have to vent their petty anger into ccp for no good reason
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I said “overall”. Assuming all crystals and all equipment will be used in healthy proportion.
So what you’re saying is - 1 Rorqual with 4 Skiffs (and perfect skills all round) will now mine the same amount of ore in the same time as 5 Rorquals did prior to Scarcity?
@CCP_Dopamine For the Orca, on the spreadsheet, the role bonuses make no mention of a drone yield bonus. But on Singularity, it’s still listed in the ship’s description. Is that because the spreadsheet only shows things that are changed? The problem with that is that there are things listed on the spreadsheet that are exactly the same in the ship description on Singularity. I can’t tell whether this bonus is still there, taken away, or what.
Is this another case of descriptions not being updated properly? Or is one accurate, and not the other? Please clarify.
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Maybe I’m blind, but are the new compression modules listed in the Excel workbook?
I mean ccp did nerf the ice duration bonus to bottom for the siege, and that sucks
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